The real victims of the attacks are Islam and the Muslim community

Now my thoughts are with those who died and their families but the long term impacts will be felt elsewhere.

People will attack Islam and make out it promotes killing, mass genocide, intolerance, and everything bad.

People will claim Muslims are responsible when that is the opposite. These terrorists are by convention not Muslim and it is technically impossible for a Muslim to kill anyone as they are effectively not Muslim. Racists and xenophobes can't see this though. They are frauds calling themselves Muslim.

When will people start addressing the adverse effect these attacks will have on Islam and the Muslim community?

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Reply 1

Shia Kafir

dozens of civilians die and OP thinks muslims are the victims

gg

Reply 2

Arsenal96123

Original post by Shia Kafir

dozens of civilians die and OP thinks muslims are the victims

gg

I said my thoughts are with them and their families :/

Reply 3

kieran12321LFC

Well a Muslim is this but a real Muslim is that. A victim is this but a real victim is that

Reply 4

NotAPedoReturns

"My thoughts are with them and their families."

"Muslims are the primary victims."

Pick one OP. You're like a child unable to pick one toy over another.

Reply 5

Arsenal96123

Original post by kieran12321LFC

Well a Muslim is this but a real Muslim is that. A victim is this but a real victim is that

What are you going on about? A real Muslim is not this (this being the actions of these people). They have nothing to do with Islam or Muslims. I challenge you to even try to make a connection

Reply 6

Brachioradialis

Original post by Arsenal96123

What are you going on about? A real Muslim is not this (this being the actions of these people). They have nothing to do with Islam or Muslims. I challenge you to even try to make a connection

You may want to Google 'No True Scotsman'

Reply 7

Arsenal96123

Original post by NotAPedoReturns

"My thoughts are with them and their families."

"Muslims are the primary victims."

Pick one OP. You're like a child unable to pick one toy over another.

But my thoughts are with them, but in the long term the real (and intended) victims are Muslim (and therefore Islam). Pinning violence on Islam over this is a childish claim and stupid but will be echoed across the world

Reply 8

kieran12321LFC

Original post by Arsenal96123

What are you going on about? A real Muslim is not this (this being the actions of these people). They have nothing to do with Islam or Muslims. I challenge you to even try to make a connection

What's the difference between a Muslim and a real Muslim

Reply 9

Ethereal World

Don't understand why people think that the case of both parties being victims is incompatible.

There are direct and indirect victims as a result of this situation.

Reply 10

Shia Kafir

Original post by Arsenal96123

in the long term the real (and intended) victims are Muslim (and therefore Islam).

please explain the bit in bold.

islam is a vile ideology that has to be challenged at every opportunity and ultimately defeated, just like nazism.

Reply 11

Zargabaath

Original post by Arsenal96123

it is technically impossible for a Muslim to kill anyone as they are effectively not Muslim.

Was Mohammed not a Muslim?

Reply 12

Arsenal96123

Original post by kieran12321LFC

What's the difference between a Muslim and a real Muslim

There is only a real Muslim and these men don't constitute as Muslim. It's funny how you try to pin this on Muslims, but in another way it is racist and not. The likes of Trump, UKIP, the French national front ect. are more to blame considering their racism and xenophobia is pushing people to do this

Reply 13

celloel

Original post by Arsenal96123

Now my thoughts are with those who died and their families but the long term impacts will be felt elsewhere.
When will people start addressing the adverse effect these attacks will have on Islam and the Muslim community?

What a disgusting interpretation you hold. The real, primary victims are those that lost their lives and the family members of the deceased. How dare you say that those uninjured, or those without having lost their brothers, sisters or mothers, are the primary victims?

The long term impacts will be felt with the son or daughter that grows up without their mother, with the father that attends his daughters funeral, with the brother that will never see his sister again, with the widow that fights back tears everyday remembering how their partner's life was ripped from them by a group of despicable, inhuman beings.

No. Muslims are NOT the real victims of the attacks. How dare you even state that daft, daft idea.

The Islamic community may suffer, but they are not the primary victims, you utter idiot.

Reply 14

whorace

The real victims are the victims and their families. Such a stupid phrase.

Reply 15

kieran12321LFC

Original post by Arsenal96123

I doubt that ISIS thought to themselves one day "UKIP got a couple of million votes in the British General Election, we can't be having that now can we"

2/10.

Original post by Arsenal96123

there is too much nonsense in this for me to deal with at this time :sigh:

Reply 18

Wellzi

The real victims are the idiots above for being so gullible and believing a troll

Reply 19

Arsenal96123

Original post by celloel

It's small minded to only think of short term impacts over long term impacts. My thoughts are with those who died and their families, it's wrong that they died and utterly sad but the point of this attack had deeper motives.