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    (Original post by MC_booSack)
    why are you bringing religion and race into this?

    professional troll i swear lol.. TSR's finest for sure.
    you have look at your own posts, black this, somali that!
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    right? I have tried to look for it and don't think I can find the original report, and I don't think this Columbia student/teacher would make it up, i don't care anymore about ur posts
    Then you can't substantiate your claim and people must assume that this intern teacher which is effectively a student has either lied or cited a very obscure report.

    You obviously do care as you keep replying but once again you have substantiated nothing


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    (Original post by paul514)
    I haven't brought race or religion on this could you show anymore behaviours of a defeated person?


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    Was I talking to you? I meant generally on tsr I see a lot of bigotry toward muslims and minorities. my comment was made in an off topic context to another user
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    Was I talking to you? I meant generally on tsr I see a lot of bigotry toward muslims and minorities. my comment was made in an off topic context to another user
    But can we even trust your judgement when you can't substantiate claims?

    Now you are being trolled lol


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    (Original post by paul514)
    Then you can't substantiate your claim and people must assume that this intern teacher which is effectively a student has either lied or cited a very obscure report.

    You obviously do care as you keep replying but once again you have substantiated nothing


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    I actually find it perfectly OK to reference other's academic work and did it when I was at uni and professors didn't mark it against me.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    But can we even trust your judgement when you can't substantiate claims?

    Now you are being trolled lol


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    (Original post by MJlover)
    I actually find it perfectly OK to reference other's academic work and did it when I was at uni and professors didn't mark it against me.
    If I were citing a review of evidence which is supposed to be what that link is then I wouldn't do so without checking their references otherwise I'd end up looking like a tit like you have.


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    (Original post by MJlover)
    control freak
    See can't trust your judgements lol


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    (Original post by MJlover)
    you have look at your own posts, black this, somali that!
    ok you legit have mental issues
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    (Original post by paul514)
    If I were citing a review of evidence which is supposed to be what that link is then I wouldn't do so without checking their references otherwise I'd end up looking like a tit like you have.


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    Its highly likely that the source is correct

    stop quoting me
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    Its highly likely that the source is correct

    stop quoting me
    Is it? You can't link their source, they are a student at a USA university


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    (Original post by MC_booSack)
    ok you legit have mental issues
    nope look at your own posts. obvious reverse troll is obvious.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    Is it? You can't link their source, they are a student at a USA university


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    so? and its a highly reputed uni, one of the best in the US and world, are you saying they'd let students quote evidence out of thin air? especially an MA student?
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    nope look at your own posts. obvious reverse troll is obvious.
    lol but you actually do have mental issues (PTSD and psychosis i believe).
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    (Original post by MC_booSack)
    lol but you actually do have mental issues (PTSD and psychosis i believe).
    have psychologists/counselling and am close to leaving them... I hope you know much of an idiot you sound bringing up someone's private health in a debate.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
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    I made a point not too different from this about a year ago regarding refugees fighting on a boat and some got pushed overboard. But basically, it doesn't seem unfathomable that experiences have had a negative effect upon them. To borrow from my old post:

    [What we often have is people] travelling hundreds if not thousands of miles, and then crossing the sea in a small, overcrowded boat, with people who would be tired from the travelling and probably hungry, thirsty and irritable; then I could imagine arguments quite easily breaking out. Add to that the fact that we have individuals who speak different languages, practice different religions and come from different countries, where previous hostilities probably already exist.
    One does have to ask whether we are doing the necessary checks on people coming in to ensure that they haven't been psychologically effected by their experiences, and if so, are we providing them with the necessary therapy and care. Also, it seems to me that we seen to throw all refugees/migrants (or whatever term you wish to use) together, ignoring the fact that they often come from different countries, speak different language, have different cultures, different religions etc.. Hostilities that already existed between these groups and they wont suddenly magically disappear and so obviously there will be a lot of tension.

    It is quite clear also that a negative environment can have huge negative effects on individuals. One only needs to look at prisons. People often get sent to prison for small petty crimes, but their mixing with much more violent and aggressive criminals in a rather horrible environment often results in them becoming more hardened criminals. We can see the negative effects when we look at the high rates of re-offenders. If we are having these issues with prisoners, then it isn't unfathomable that we will have issues with people escaping from war zones, who will also have been negatively affected by their environment.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    so? and its a highly reputed uni, one of the best in the US and world, are you saying they'd let students quote evidence out of thin air? especially an MA student?
    What is their procedure to check it? You don't know and neither do I so you go straight back to the source of the apparent facts which you can't link.

    Also thinking a student author automatically gives authority to a report is hilarious that is what qualifications are for.
    Its even funnier for it to be a USA university student which is an elective module system for their undergraduate so someone who goes to a poly in this country and studies psychology has probably done more psychology study than the author before MA.

    Next the original source she cites let's assume it is real.

    What was the sample size? Which method of diagnosis did they use? Which definition of PTSD? ICD-10? DSM-IV? DSM-V? How many sessions did they have?

    I could go on


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    (Original post by MJlover)
    have psychologists/counselling and am close to leaving them... I hope you know much of an idiot you sound bringing up someone's private health in a debate.
    so don't accuse me of being racist. where i'm from people get buried in the desert for less than that
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    (Original post by paul514)
    What is their procedure to check it? You don't know and neither do I so you go straight back to the source of the apparent facts which you can't link.

    Also thinking a student author automatically gives authority to a report is hilarious that is what qualifications are for.
    Its even funnier for it to be a USA university student which is an elective module system for their undergraduate so someone who goes to a poly in this country and studies psychology has probably done more psychology study than the author before MA.

    Next the original source she cites let's assume it is real.

    What was the sample size? Which method of diagnosis did they use? Which definition of PTSD? ICD-10? DSM-IV? DSM-V? How many sessions did they have?

    I could go on


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    Its not an elective module system if they're doing an MA - in America and elsewhere.

    Obviously MA students are more supervised than undergraduates so would
    need a Professor to authorize published studies.

    Of course she knows more as a grad student (and on her personal site, it says she has majored in Psychology as an undergrad).

    I don't know the specifics of PTSD as I study History
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    Its not an elective module system if they're doing an MA - in America and elsewhere.

    Obviously MA students are more supervised than undergraduates so would
    need a Professor to authorize published studies.

    Of course she knows more as a grad student (and on her personal site, it says she has majored in Psychology as an undergrad).

    I don't know the specifics of PTSD as I study History :s
    She's doing an MA, so her previous qualification was an undergrad in an elective system. Point stands.

    As does everything else I've said.


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