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    Think you might be into something here OP (even though the majority of "refugees" aren't even Syrian according to pretty much all statistics on this). I mean, look at all those guys coming home from being in the trenches in World War 1, the guys storming the beaches in Normandy in World War 2, the Holocaust survivors etc etc.......... they were sexually assaulting random women all over the place......:rolleyes:

    Pathetic thread.
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    And on what page is PTSD mentioned in your link? I did a search for PTSD on the document and it only came up in the acronym page lol
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    Yep as suspected a acronym search, word search and a scan read didn't show ANY mention of PTSD.


    Please provide a source showing 50-57% of Syrian refugees suffer from PTSD
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    not racist? but why bring their race up when only condemning those communities for crimes?Don't forget they're fleeing to the very countries that are responsible for causing and supporting conflict in their countries of origin.PTSD can effect anyone including the victims of violent crime, and btw show me anywhere on this thread where I've shown sympathy to rapists and those who are perpetrators of violent crime?
    1) Who brought their race into it?
    2) Whilst this is mostly inaccurate, this does not excuse them for criminal activities. If you come into a country you follow that countries law and culture from the second you enter. Why can so many do this and others are still using excuses.
    3) No, it is most common in war veterans and you dont see them using that as a excuse. I think your whole thread is just absolutely pathetic and the fact you are using PTSD as a sympathy magnet for rapists and murderers says alot about you.
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    (Original post by TSRFT8)
    1) Who brought their race into it?
    2) Whilst this is mostly inaccurate, this does not excuse them for criminal activities. If you come into a country you follow that countries law and culture from the second you enter. Why can so many do this and others are still using excuses.
    3) No, it is most common in war veterans and you dont see them using that as a excuse. I think your whole thread is just absolutely pathetic and the fact you are using PTSD as a sympathy magnet for rapists and murderers says alot about you.
    I clarified that I was not using it as a justification for rape and serious crime in my OP, yet again another who wants to shout down a non-point.
    I've even given stats that 50-57% of Syrian refugees have PTSD, there is nothing pathetic about pointing out this serious issue.
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    Think you might be into something here OP (even though the majority of "refugees" aren't even Syrian according to pretty much all statistics on this). I mean, look at all those guys coming home from being in the trenches in World War 1, the guys storming the beaches in Normandy in World War 2, the Holocaust survivors etc etc.......... they were sexually assaulting random women all over the place......:rolleyes:

    Pathetic thread.
    yeah because thats what all refugees do :rolleyes:

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    (Original post by MJlover)
    I clarified that I was not using it as a justification for rape and serious crime in my OP, yet again another who wants to shout down a non-point.
    I've even given stats that 50-57% of Syrian refugees have PTSD, there is nothing pathetic about pointing out this serious issue.
    You have provided no evidence


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    (Original post by paul514)
    You have provided no evidence


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    A quick search can find you plenty of research on PTSD among Syrian refugees
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    A quick search can find you plenty of research on PTSD among Syrian refugees
    Then you should link the study showing 50-57%


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    (Original post by MJlover)
    I clarified that I was not using it as a justification for rape and serious crime in my OP, yet again another who wants to shout down a non-point.
    I've even given stats that 50-57% of Syrian refugees have PTSD, there is nothing pathetic about pointing out this serious issue.
    Refugees suffering from significant health problems isn't a new idea and s serious as it is the PTSD statistic doesn't do much to strengthen or weaken any side of the refugee crisis. It grants clarity which yes is very good but informs little beyond that.

    Also do you have any evidence to link PTSD with crimes of a nature that have been committed by the refugees. And how do you explain heightened crime statistics from immigrants from cultures similar to those that the refugees are coming from.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    Then you should link the study showing 50-57%


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    I am not going to claim something I can't find, and since there are stats that alternatively say about 30% (the EMPHNET one doesn't seem to show the 50% stat), i think my OP is still substantiated for.
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    (Original post by garfeeled)
    Refugees suffering from significant health problems isn't a new idea and s serious as it is the PTSD statistic doesn't do much to strengthen or weaken any side of the refugee crisis. It grants clarity which yes is very good but informs little beyond that.

    Also do you have any evidence to link PTSD with crimes of a nature that have been committed by the refugees. And how do you explain heightened crime statistics from immigrants from cultures similar to those that the refugees are coming from.
    are you saying that their culture is responsible for crime stats? I think there is a lot to understand about petty crime, poverty and lack of job opportunities and mental health some of them.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    I am not going to claim something I can't find, and since there are stats that alternatively say about 30% (the EMPHNET one doesn't seem to show the 50% stat), i think my OP is still substantiated for.
    At nearly half the level you said.... Let's see that study for 30% then


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    So are you basically trying to say migrants assaulting women and traumatising them for life is basically their way of dealing with PTSD? Regardless of if you have PTSD, it doesn't give you any excuse to do anything like sexually assault a woman.

    Anyone who does that should be deported. There are thousands of PTSD sufferers throughout the UK. You don't see them making their city centres a no go area at night.

    Pathetic.
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    (Original post by MJlover)
    are you saying that their culture is responsible for crime stats? I think there is a lot to understand about petty crime, poverty and lack of job opportunities and mental health some of them.
    Read up the stats yourself sweetheart. Syria (where many of these migrants claim to be from) is in the bottom ten in the world for gender equality.

    If you have milions of these people (who are mainly guys), who view women to be nothing but objects, they'll think they can do it here.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    At nearly half the level you said.... Let's see that study for 30% then


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    This one claims 20-50% http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/syrian-...ptsd-1.2673341

    and as I've said, there is a lot of research that you can easily find yourself on this topic
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    So are you basically trying to say migrants assaulting women and traumatising them for life is basically their way of dealing with PTSD? Regardless of if you have PTSD, it doesn't give you any excuse to do anything like sexually assault a woman.

    Anyone who does that should be deported. There are thousands of PTSD sufferers throughout the UK. You don't see them making their city centres a no go area at night.

    Pathetic.
    DID I NOT SAY IN MY OP THAT I DID NOT WANT TO JUSTIFY SEXUAL ASSAULT AT ALL?

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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    Read up the stats yourself sweetheart. Syria (where many of these migrants claim to be from) is in the bottom ten in the world for gender equality.

    If you have milions of these people (who are mainly guys), who view women to be nothing but objects, they'll think they can do it here.
    proof or its a bigoted stereotype
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    So are you basically trying to say migrants assaulting women and traumatising them for life is basically their way of dealing with PTSD? Regardless of if you have PTSD, it doesn't give you any excuse to do anything like sexually assault a woman.

    Anyone who does that should be deported. There are thousands of PTSD sufferers throughout the UK. You don't see them making their city centres a no go area at night.

    Pathetic.
    Correct.

    PTSD causing sexual assault just wouldn't happen.

    PTSD causing someone at hit someone can happen but that isn't the sort of crime we are talking about it and would be a hit not a prolonged attack. It would also be rare with the suffer being surprised by a person during a flashback.


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    (Original post by paul514)
    Correct.

    PTSD causing sexual assault just wouldn't happen.

    PTSD causing someone at hit someone can happen but that isn't the sort of crime we are talking about it and would be a hit not a prolonged attack. It would also be rare with the suffer being surprised by a person during a flashback.


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    It is exactly the type of crime I'm talking about, my OP says that I do not want to use PTSD to justify sexual assaults.
 
 
 
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