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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    maybe he was just trying to get some kind of recognition for the terrorism carried out by the terrorist State of Israel
    He can do that elsewhere, and at another time. We are a tolerant people but there is a limit to our tolerance. Human dignity is important

    except everybody turns a blind eyes
    No, we don't

    As a Muslim I don't stand behind Germany or any other European country during crisis, simply because don't give a ****
    Where are you based?
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    He can do that elsewhere, and at another time. We are a tolerant people but there is a limit to our tolerance. Human dignity is important

    No, we don't

    Where are you based?

    I also thought it was a little insensitive so... and you're not tolerante people but really who give af.
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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    I also thought it was a little insensitive so... and you're not tolerante people but really who give af.
    I have to say, the UK represents tolerant people more than anywhere else. When I sit back and compare I'm proud of Britain.

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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    I also thought it was a little insensitive
    Yet you don't give a **** about our crisis. Someone needs to make their mind up..

    you're not tolerante people
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    I have to say, the UK represents tolerant people more than anywhere else
    Thank you for the recognition, Slipandsquirm, you are right, we are in the top 20 of the world's most tolerant nations concerning immigrants, and the most tolerant nation with respect to homosexuality in Europe

    P.S. I asked you where you are based Habibananna. Do you refuse to tell us?
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Yet you don't give a **** about our crisis. Someone needs to make their mind up..

    Thank you for the recognition, Slipandsquirm, you are right, we are in the top 20 of the world's most tolerant nations concerning immigrants, and the most tolerant nation with respect to homosexuality in Europe

    P.S. I asked you where you are based Habibananna. Do you refuse to tell us?

    Understanding and caring is two completely different things, I understand this situation because over 3 Muslim countries have been under attack in the past decade and practicaly carpet bombed and flattened, all under the false pretence of 'fighting terrorism', 'installing democracy' or 'pre-emptive strike against those holding weapons of mass destruction and want to destroy our nations for freedoms' ... Or whatever bullsh*t. You are unequivocally identical to your ancestors, if anything they were better people, at-least they were not deceptive; here you play the world police and oppress people.

    I understand this because just as these civilians were innocents so were those 2+ million in Iraq who died for no bloody reason but oil, power and territory. You know, it really eats me up how you expect us muslim to give a toss about your people when you are constantly killing us and destroying our countries, then you close your borders, and say 'sorry no more room'. For gods sake I care about people who have to cross an ocean and risk their lives and their children because they somehow found themselves in the middle of a war they know nothing of.

    I don't expect you to understand so yeah dw. Keep playing the victim.
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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    Understanding and caring is two completely different things
    Sensitivity is predicated on compassion/empathy e.g. emotional connectivity, my dear. If you recognise insensitivity then you are showing that you care about the emotional affectation of another human being

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    You play the world police and oppress people
    you are constantly killing us and destroying our countries
    Blimey, I'm a law unto myself when I go sleep walking! What am I like

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    I've not oppressed or killed anyone, Muslim or otherwise, to the best of my knowledge :innocent:

    I care about people who have to cross an ocean and risk their lives and their children because they somehow found themselves in the middle of a war they know nothing of
    I care about all of humanity, personally, and would encourage you to do the same

    I don't expect you to understand so yeah dw
    As an erudite pragmatist, I can assure you that I understand perfectly. See my various related posts, such as the following recent contribution, FYR

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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Beyond issues inherent in Islamic doctrine and related ethno-culture/sociological issues, the suffering of Muslims and settled inhabitants alike is essentially down to self-serving/myopic [political] decisions, plus the historic collusion of the establishment with radical Islam/incendiary foreign policy

    P.S. You still haven't revealed where you are based.. UK?
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Sensitivity is predicated on compassion/empathy e.g. emotional connectivity, my dear. If you recognise insensitivity then you are showing that you care about the emotional affectation of another human being
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    Blimey, I'm a law unto myself when I go sleep walking! What am I like
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    I've not oppressed or killed anyone, Muslim or otherwise, to the best of my knowledge :innocent:
    I care about all of humanity, personally, and would encourage you to do the same

    As an erudite pragmatist, I can assure you that I understand perfectly. See my various related posts, such as the following recent contribution, FYRP.S. You still haven't revealed where you are based.. UK?



    You have replied to me with a few sentence and that it. I've been here before love, I know the story and I really can't be bothered.
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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    Yes it was wrong of both of them to place the Palestinian flag ontop of another flag just for political recognition and to start a problem, but, maybe he was just trying to get some kind of recognition for the terrorism carried out by the terrorist State of Israel -by the same Europeans (Including Germans) against Muslim's everyday. Children playing on beaches in Palestine are being bombed by drones, and before you ask me to submit a source go check the news. The State of Israelis; a terrorist state created for a bunch of European Jews claiming to be 'Isrealies' is doing exactly what these terrorist have done in Brussels- except everybody turns a blind eyes. As a Muslim I don't stand behind Germany or any other European country during crisis, simply because don't give a ****.
    Muslims often complain about "Islamiphobia" but some of you lot hardly help yourselves with crap like this. Thing is, I'd venture that the above is an alarmingly commonly held sentiment among regular Muslims in the UK and Europe......
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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    You have replied to me with a few sentence and that it. I've been here before love, I know the story and I really can't be bothered.
    I'm sorry you can't be bothered to respond to matters of reason, values, humanity and social conscientiousness. I'm also sorry that there are people like yourself living in our midst, who do not identify with, or care about, the rest of us but, instead, see us as 'enemy' - as you have demonstrated

    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    Muslims often complain about "Islamiphobia" but some of you lot hardly help yourselves with crap like this
    My sentiments entirely. God help us all
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    (Original post by MrsSheldonCooper)
    How can any decent person bring hate into a place of mourning is beyond me.

    I hope she gets arrested.
    http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/new...acist_vandals/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pict...t-slogans.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ate-crime.html

    I know right,....
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    I'm sorry you can't be bothered to respond to matters of reason, values, humanity and social conscientiousness. I'm also sorry that there are people like yourself living in our midst, who do not identify with or care about the rest of us - as you have demonstrated
    You act like I'm different from you, we're two sides of the same coin, while you believe you have done nothing and we are violant savages attacking people for no reason. I believe you are the aggressors and we're the victims. Also saying, 'living in our midst', as though I'm a danger because I have a different political outlook, if that is what the definition of a 'terrorist' or 'terrorist sympathiser' is to you then so be it I am a terrorist, and I'd rather one than than to be a blind sheep.
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    (Original post by luminarychild)
    I know right
    That's appalling!

    (Original post by Habibananna)
    You act like I'm different from you
    Essentially, we are all humans with our mortal foibles

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    you believe you have done nothing
    I didn't say that, but I don't believe I've oppressed or killed anyone

    we are violant savages attacking people for no reason
    Not sure I've said that either, but please feel free to quote me

    I believe you are the aggressors and we're the victims
    Generally speaking, the Anglo-American establishment (and special interests) have fundamentally been to blame, and Muslims the biggest victims, that is pretty clear to see. That said, thinking in terms of victim vs. aggressor is overly simplistic (esp. concerning civilians) and not constructive

    I'm a danger because I have a different political opinion, if that is what the definition of a 'terrorist' or 'terrorist sympathiser' is to you then so be it I am a terrorist, and I'd rather one than than to be a blind sheep
    Having sympathy for the psychological stresses and strains that serve as to radicalise people is not being a 'terrorist sympathiser' - attempting to excuse/justify their acts of terror on the basis of said sympathy is. Either way, those who do not identify with/care about the rest of society, and arbitrarily perceive us to be 'the enemy', are indeed a threat to our safety, security, values, and way of life; we are not content for such people to live among us, and abhor the cretins who have invited them to do so/tolerated their pervasion, concentration and crimes within our society
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    That's appalling!

    Essentially, we are all humans with our mortal foibles
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    Btw, it's different to you* :yy:
    I didn't say that, but I don't believe I've oppressed or killed anyone

    Not sure I've said that either, but please feel free to quote me

    Generally speaking, the Anglo-American establishment (an special interests) have been meddlesome/the conspirators/aggressors and Muslims the victims, that is pretty clear to see. That said, thinking purely in terms of victim vs. aggressor is overly simplistic and not constructive

    Having sympathy for the psychological stresses and strains that serve as to radicalise people is not being a 'terrorist sympathiser' - excusing their acts of terror on the basis of said sympathy is. Either way, those who do not identify with/care about the rest of society, and arbitrarily perceive us to be 'the enemy', are indeed a threat to our safety, security, values, and way of life. As such, we are not content for such people to live among us, and abhor those who have invited them to do so/tolerated their pervasion, concentration and crimes within our society


    As i've said, I'm really tired of explaining myself over and over again, so yeah I have no more time to waste on this matter. And thank you so much for correcting my grammer, it really helped with this argument -how very kind of you. Anyway, great debate, loved it. Maybe we can do this another time?
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    (Original post by Habibananna)
    thank you so much for correcting my grammer - how very kind of you
    You're welcome

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    Anyway, great debate, loved it. Maybe we can do this another time?
    Perhaps, supposing you realise the import of the topic under discussion in the meantime - social cohesion is very important not just for a broadly harmonious society, but for the fate of minority groups in the West, going forward. Muslims in particular stand to suffer unless things change :erm:
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    You're welcome
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    Perhaps, supposing you realise the import of the topic under discussion in the meantime - social cohesion is very important not just for a broadly harmonious society, but for the fate of minority groups in the West, going forward. Muslims in particular stand to suffer unless things change :erm:
    Yeah, I definitely agree with your last point.
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    He shouldn't be turning a memorial of any kind, let alone one in recognition of a fresh Islamist atrocity, into an opportunity for a pro-Palestinian demonstration, never mind displaying anti-Semitism!

    I mean give it back to him in a forceful way that he may or may not like :mmm:
    That still wouldn't have stopped the person,most likely.
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    That still wouldn't have stopped the person,most likely
    Trust me, it would have meant him exiting the scene most speedily et gingerly :creep:
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    (Original post by HanSoloLuck)
    A man walked into the center of the memorial to cover up an Israeli flag that was laid down, he covers it with a Palestinian one so it can't be seen. In full view of everyone, people can be heard saying "no" but nobody stops him.
    A woman wearing a hijab walks into the makeshift shrine and rips up the Israeli flag placed there by someone else in another scene. Both caught on camera.

    It reminds of the Hebdo murders, were the shrine to the victims was repeatedly destroyed, of course we only heard about after a fortnight of attacks. I guess the media didn't want to 'incite racial hatred'.
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    Lets get a few things out the way, Israel should bomb Palestine a lot heavier for this. The Islam preachers will find a way do defend the actions of their fellow preachers anyhow
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    (Original post by Foo.mp3)
    Trust me, it would have meant him exiting the scene most speedily et gingerly :creep:
    I doubt it tbh. Some people are hot headed and easily fuelled by hatred
 
 
 
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