Disgusting betting shops everywhere.

The main reason someone would want betting shops to be closed down is strictly for social class prejudice purposes, not wanting dodgy people around.

Others honestly don't like the idea that companies are luring poor people

But rich people gamble too.

There's no real reason that I know of yet to ban betting/casinos. The individual decided to go in. They get what they get.

Unless there's some secret govt reason that casinos are wrong, there's no reason to ban gambling.

No let's not detour to analogies, I hate that mate I'm just letting you know that now. Let's stick to this subject. We're not on about crack. We're on about betting. At the end of the day people can sell whatever products and services they want illegal or legal, you need to as a human being understand the dangers in this world and stick by some good principles that keeps you from these dangers. I've never been tempted to buy crack no matter how many dealers I know or walk by! There's betting shops up and open but everyone doesn't just culturally stroll in though. That's the person's choice. We can't build a utopia lest people fall to wicked temptation. Again let's ban arcades as well since people are playing those games for prizes as well.

I don't want them closed down. I've been in a few sometimes to place bets (mainly big football tournaments). I just think there are too many. It is frustrating when there's only 1 small crappy Tesco and 1 over priced One Stop to buy food at in your village and like 10 betting shops.

I usually hate analogies myself, but I felt it was a reasonable analogy - if you legalise something that harms people, people will suffer because they're not smart enough not to do it. Same with betting. I'm using crack as an example because it's a similar principle - poor people that waste their money on something that is harming them (hoping it will make them feel good, which it doesn't).

It's the person's choice but why open a store to invite them to do it more? If you just decide to close the stores down, you can let them gamble elsewhere -if they can only gamble privately I imagine a lot of them will stop because it isn't so readily available (whilst still being allowed to do so).

People do play for prizes at arcades but I imagine next to no-one is actually addicted to them.

Arcade games do wreck people. People lose tons of money to pay for a new game to get the prize. It's the same thing. it's the mentality mate. Of not stopping till you get something. That's the sickness of that person. Shouldn't shut everything down because some people are horrible on the inside. I get govt regulation to just prevent full stop anything bad but even with prohibitions and laws against these things people STILL do it.

The main reason someone would want betting shops to be closed down is strictly for social class prejudice purposes, not wanting dodgy people around.

Others honestly don't like the idea that companies are luring poor people

But rich people gamble too.

There's no real reason that I know of yet to ban betting/casinos. The individual decided to go in. They get what they get.

Unless there's some secret govt reason that casinos are wrong, there's no reason to ban gambling.

In the moment you will not stop till you win. Or run out of money. Have you not been to arcades and seen this?

Anyway, as I said, legal or not, it's that person's choice to go and buy the illegal thing, or walk into an establishment selling whatever products/services you disagree with. That's them. Same way the fool signed the pay loan contract and didn't even bother to calculate or understand interest rate. Yes as I said it's predatory to any person of any social class, but again they decided. I'm on about where is the sense and morals of that person but no one else seems to care about that. So let's just ban ban ban because people otherwise have no restraint? What? And again poor people as consumers who go to betting shops have received money, probably less money than the producer or owner received from them paying to play/place bets. But still they're receiving needed money. If we wanna get into the discussion about big companies preying on us, let's look at...psh everything?

@jblack well I've nowt to say but quoted you anyway dunno

I think those people in arcades you're talking about are rare! You're right, people still do things like that but it must lessen their addictive tendencies.



Well, the betting shops started opening soon after the big money crash right? So I imagine it's a way of them bringing some money back in - by vacuuming groups of poor people.

I agree with pretty much everything you say! And yes, I've seen it in arcades.

I feel it's a case of the fact that it's people's right to gamble and take drugs, but it's the government's duty not to hand it to people on a plate (without banning it). So there's a fair compromise.

As for the last sentence, yeah - haha. I'll just rise really high in the world and then whoop those big companies (no joke)! * High five *

Anyway, if I keep replying to you we're gonna end up writing a book lmao.

Is that your main concern? We'll be here all day talking about that then. And again. Lmao you're gonna hate me but oh well mate you fool a fool, end of. They're making it easy to be used by the rich, having no principles and morals to resist their offered "services" and "products." That's life init. Maybe I'm talking large because I know I'll never go gambling unless I need it. But not going gambling doesn't mean you're now no longer being preyed on lol it's happening all round.

Oh all right then I'll let ya go lol glad we got somewhere though. Didn't mean to resurrect your thread haha.

Same it was nice debating, and no way it's great to see someone with some real views haha. It's not that I can't be bothered to post, I just feel like I'm just wasting your time and words lol.

Yea well, we can't win em all lol I said what I had to say and I see what you're saying and feel we've come to understand each other, at least, which is what's most important.

I'm sure everyone has seen these places - they are filled with dirt poor/homeless people that spend what little money they can get on gambling, alcohol and drugs.

What sad, sad places. These places should be closed instantly and there should be a real, day-to-day support for these people (literally people that walk around and visit them every single day to help them get work and a place to live).

Gambling is an awful addiction. Unlike alcohol (which the main limitation is how much the body can take) there is no limit. You can lose EVERYTHING.

In my village there is only 1 small convenience store and about five betting shops.