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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    And you need to look up the definition of reading, because you seem to do so little of it.

    Where on earth did I ever say that white people have a greater right to free speech than non-whites in England? LMAO, are you alright?

    What I said was, England has been inhabited by Europeans for thousands of years, and has been peacefully governed by monarchy and democracy for that length. So what gives a bunch of immigrants the right to protest the government of a country they emigrated to? If they don't like the laws there, why emigrate there in the first place? Why not go to a country already governed theocratically? That's right, because the welfare runs out.


    People are entitled to say what they want. If you carefully read and understood what i wrote you would realise that my argument isn't their right to say what they want. They can. My argument is why they all haven't been arrested for what they said. Freedom of speech doesn't save you from consequences.


    The Saudi arabia example was just an analogy.
    The fact that you brouget up the "in their own country" point goes to show that you think that it's not as bad when Whites incite violence and hatred because it's supposedly their country, Mr "Black Man".

    The law gives them the right to do so, your whole second paragraph proves my point that you think that non-Whites should have less of a right to free speech. Either restrict all hate speech or restrict none, but a democracy cannot be selective while continuing to identify as a democracy. You seem to have a problem with the way this country gives everyone equal rights, Mr "Black Man".

    Arresting people for what they say means that they don't have the right to say what they want. And quite a few IS supporters have been arrested so it goes to show that Islam has no special protection or privilege like some people claim it does.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    The fact that you brouget up the "in their own country" point goes to show that you think that it's not as bad when Whites incite violence and hatred because it's supposedly their country, Mr "Black Man".

    The law gives them the right to do so, your whole second paragraph proves my point that you think that non-Whites should have less of a right to free speech. Either restrict all hate speech or restrict none, but a democracy cannot be selective while continuing to identify as a democracy. You seem to have a problem with the way this country gives everyone equal rights, Mr "Black Man".

    Arresting people for what they say means that they don't have the right to say what they want. And quite a few IS supporters have been arrested so it goes to show that Islam has no special protection or privilege like some people claim it does.



    The in their own country thing I said was how an immigrant is supposed to respect the law of the land their coming to, not spout out intolerant garbage just because their false religion permits them to.

    Did your parents ask for African nationalism when they immigrated to Europe? No.

    So why the hell is it acceptable when muslims do it?


    Explain that. I never said they don't have a freedom of speech. They can say what they want, i just don't agree with what they say and want people who add violence to their protests to be arrested.
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    The in their own country thing I said was how an immigrant is supposed to respect the law of the land their coming to, not spout out intolerant garbage just because their false religion permits them to.

    Did your parents ask for African nationalism when they immigrated to Europe? No.

    So why the hell is it acceptable when muslims do it?


    Explain that. I never said they don't have a freedom of speech. They can say what they want, i just don't agree with what they say and want people who add violence to their protests to be arrested.
    In every community there are people who break the law. It should be obeyed whether they immigrated here or whether they were here all along. And in case you haven't noticed not all Muslims are immigrants, not even all radical Muslims.

    You know nothing about my parents or their backgrounds, way to make assumptions.

    If the law permits a minority of Muslims to use their right to free speech to call for Shariah, nothing can be done about it. They're not exactly making progress.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    In every community there are people who break the law. It should be obeyed whether they immigrated here or whether they were here all along. And in case you haven't noticed not all Muslims are immigrants, not even all radical Muslims.

    You know nothing about my parents or their backgrounds, way to make assumptions.

    If the law permits a minority of Muslims to use their right to free speech to call for Shariah, nothing can be done about it. They're not exactly making progress.



    MY GOD IN HEAVEN hahahahaha.


    I'll rap it up here darling. Liberalism has poisoned you and I hope Jesus christ opens your eyes to your mistakes.


    "In every community there are people who break the law. It should be obeyed"



    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    MY GOD IN HEAVEN hahahahaha.


    I'll rap it up here darling. Liberalism has poisoned you and I hope Jesus christ opens your eyes to your mistakes.


    "In every community there are people who break the law. It should be obeyed"



    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    No thanks, I could do without Jesus Christ or any of that other religious drivel. I'm happier without it.

    Calling for Shariah isn't disobeying the law, as these are words and not actions.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    No thanks, I could do without Jesus Christ or any of that other religious drivel. I'm happier without it.

    Calling for Shariah isn't disobeying the law, as these are words and not actions.

    "Calling for Shariah isn't disobeying the law, as these are words and not actions."

    There are already 4 sharia courts in London

    "as these are words and not actions"

    LMAO, you really are deluded.
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    "Calling for Shariah isn't disobeying the law, as these are words and not actions."

    There are already 4 sharia courts in London

    "as these are words and not actions"

    LMAO, you really are deluded.
    The decisions of these Shariah courts are not legally-binding, like the Jewish Halakhah courts. This is why they are allowed to exist. They are also limited in the areas which they can or can't deal with. The ultimate decision lies with the real civil courts. Maybe you should learn a thing or two about how the system works.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    The decisions of these Shariah courts are not legally-binding, like the Jewish Halakhah courts. This is why they are allowed to exist. They are also limited in the areas which they can or can't deal with. The ultimate decision lies with the real civil courts. Maybe you should learn a thing or two about how the system works.


    You're the one who needs to learn about the system and government.

    Sharia courts ARE legally binding to the muslims that patronise them. They use them to settle divorce cases and other matters. You've shown the world your ignorance once again.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hock-core.html


    " Shariah courts are not legally-binding"




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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    You're the one who needs to learn about the system and government.

    Sharia courts ARE legally binding to the muslims that patronise them. They use them to settle divorce cases and other matters. You've shown the world your ignorance once again.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...hock-core.html


    " Shariah courts are not legally-binding"

    ok
    So you use a Daily Mail article to prove that they are binding? OK.

    They can only settle divorce cases if you are talking about one of those "marriages" that are not officially registered, hence not legally recognised as a marriage. A real marriage can only be dissolved by civil courts. So no, their decisions are not legally-binding and yes, you need to become more familiar with the system.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    So you use a Daily Mail article to prove that they are binding? OK.

    They can only settle divorce cases if you are talking about one of those "marriages" that are not officially registered, hence not legally recognised as a marriage. A real marriage can only be dissolved by civil courts. So no, their decisions are not legally-binding and yes, you need to become more familiar with the system.
    If you actually read the article you would realise that it's not just divorce cases they settle. LOL.

    They are not legally recognised as a marriage?

    Says who, you?

    Islamic marriages are legally registered in the UK, so how do you know the people who use shariah courts aren't legally married?


    Yes you really need to learn the system
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    If you actually read the article you would realise that it's not just divorce cases they settle. LOL.

    They are not legally recognised as a marriage?

    Says who, you?

    Islamic marriages are legally registered in the UK, so how do you know the people who use shariah courts aren't legally married?


    Yes you really need to learn the system
    Islamic marriages are legally recognised in the UK if they are officially registered. For those that are not registered and where the couple only got a certificate from the mosque they are not recognisance by law. These are the only "marriages" a Shariah court can dissolve because they are not real marriages. They are not husband and wife on paper, their children are not recognised as legitimate and they get none of the insurance, pension or other privileges that married couples get.

    I have no time for a Daily Mail article, I already know how the Shariah courts work. They have no legal powers and if a Muslim chooses to enter into a contract with one of these "courts", it is only binding as far as any other contract can be.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Islamic marriages are legally recognised in the UK if they are officially registered. For those that are not registered and where the couple only got a certificate from the mosque they are not recognisance by law. These are the only "marriages" a Shariah court can dissolve because they are not real marriages. They are not husband and wife on paper, their children are not recognised as legitimate and they get none of the insurance, pension or other privileges that married couples get.

    I have no time for a Daily Mail article, I already know how the Shariah courts work. They have no legal powers and if a Muslim chouses to enter into a contract with one of these "courts", it is only binding as far as any other contract can be.


    Anjem Choudray gets welfare from the british government and also talked about his health insurance on twitter. Please explain this as he is not only a man who uses Sharia courts, he presides over cases.

    I'm not trying to insult or belittle you now, I'm genuinely asking for an explanation.
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    Anjem Choudray gets welfare from the british government and also talked about his health insurance on twitter. Please explain this as he is not only a man who uses Sharia courts, he presides over cases.

    I'm not trying to insult or belittle you now, I'm genuinely asking for an explanation.
    Even you did try to insult and belittle me you would fail miserably, as you are undoubtedly clueless.

    I was talking about insurance, pensions and other benefits in the context of a married couple, not individuals. A married couple gets additional benefits that a couple whose marriage has not been officially registered would not be entitled to.
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Even you did try to insult and belittle me you would fail miserably, as you are undoubtedly clueless.

    I was talking about insurance, pensions and other benefits in the context of a married couple, not individuals. A married couple gets additional benefits that a couple whose marriage has not been officially registered would not be entitled to.


    I mean him and his family. It's not my fault you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

    Explain how his family has all these benefits.
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    I mean him and his family. It's not my fault you lack basic reading comprehension skills.

    Explain how his family has all these benefits.
    Do you have evidence that:
    a) his marriage is not officially registered and
    b) he and his wife have the specific benefits that are unique to married couples?

    Didn't think so.
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    Hardly. Antisemitism is about prejudice against certain lineages, not just disliking ideas
    Yet it has been broadened into Zionism as a political idea.

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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    Do you have evidence that:
    a) his marriage is not officially registered and
    b) he and his wife have the specific benefits that are unique to married couples?

    Didn't think so.

    I have evidence of the second one but how the hell am I supposed to get the first one?

    Do you specialise in talking through your ass?
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    I have evidence of the second one but how the hell am I supposed to get the first one?

    Do you specialise in talking through your ass?
    If you don't have evidence of both then your point doesn't stand.

    You don't seem to understand that not all benefits are the same. Some can be claimed by any person who is eligible but there are others that are specific to married couples. How on Earth would you get evidence that he is receiving the latter?
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    (Original post by WBZ144)
    If you don't have evidence of both then your point doesn't stand.

    You don't seem to understand that not all benefits are the same. Some can be claimed by any person who is eligible but there are others that are specific to married couples. How on Earth would you get evidence that he is receiving the latter?


    There is a video of him on youtube talking about the welfare him and his family receive from the UK Government.
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    (Original post by Z-Zinan)
    There is a video of him on youtube talking about the welfare him and his family receive from the UK Government.
    And he didn't specify the type of welfare, did he?
 
 
 
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