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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    Again we have the same problem. You are stating as fact that some of them were 'far right racists' without evidence. I am simply asking for evidence. That is not necessarily Christian, nor conservative.



    Oh a few.

    1) That a not insignificant proportion claiming to be refugees may not be refugees. but economic migrants.

    2) That many people seeking refugee status do not have any documentation, and so it's very difficult to detect if they could pose a security risk.

    3) That the volume of people entering Europe is so vast that it will be very difficult to integrate these people into our societies. This is particularly acute considering many come from countries that are so culturally unlike our own.

    1) you said refugees at first now either they are refugees or they are not make up your mind.

    2) I doubt that makes any difference to you seeing as you can't decide whether a refugee is a refugee or not.

    3) Who would want to integrate with people like you anyway?

    4) Theres a guy in the photo with his finger in the air perhaps he's a communist?
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    So you admit that the far right wing neo nazis facist group were there but not to blame for what the police did to the left wing protestors as a direct result of the far right degenerate racist inferior homophobic etc etc views that people in denial and sympathise by taking their side stand with aren't trying to silence other right on people? LoL I just don't know where it comes from sometimes. Oh yeah it comes from putting up with islamophbes who think people should be in Guantanamo Bay. U
    I'm not there and neither are you. But it seems highly likely that there were NN's amongst the protesters. So what? They have a legitimate right to protest the same as anybody else.
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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    People like you need to grow up, and get out of the bizarre delusion that protesting against migration, or against terrorism, or even against Islam is 'far right'.
    Don't you know, protesting against conservative groups makes you an anti-fascist, except when you protest against ultra-conservative Islam, when it (for some strange reason) makes you a fascist.
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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    This is true of course. Although it's very difficult for a fascist to be taken seriously. It's why it is used as a slur on all people against these things.




    I'm not quite sure that doing a Nazi salute makes you a neo nazi. By definition, just look at the definition.

    As for anti-immigration chants? Well what is wrong with that?

    So you agree that being a nazi can make you a legitimate politician? If so do you think dictatorship is a legitimate regime to be living in?
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    (Original post by Howard)
    I'm not there and neither are you. But it seems highly likely that there were NN's amongst the protesters. So what? They have a legitimate right to protest the same as anybody else.
    So why do you think the police used water canons against the protestors.
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    1) you said refugees at first now either they are refugees or they are not make up your mind.

    2) I doubt that makes any difference to you seeing as you can't decide whether a refugee is a refugee or not.

    Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. These are my problems with the refugee crisis we have at the moment.

    Are these really your best responses?

    (Original post by Thomb)
    3) Who would want to integrate with people like you anyway?

    4) Theres a guy in the photo with his finger in the air perhaps he's a communist?
    Are you even trying?
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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    I'm not quite sure that doing a Nazi salute makes you a neo nazi. By definition, just look at the definition.
    :facepalm:

    As for anti-immigration chants? Well what is wrong with that?
    Stop being a hate-speech apologist
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    (Original post by KingBradly)
    Don't you know, protesting against conservative groups makes you an anti-fascist, except when you protest against ultra-conservative Islam, when it (for some strange reason) makes you a fascist.
    It has always baffled me, this weird alliance between some on the left and Islam. Some of them would happily trample all over womens' rights, for example, just to defend it. It's very strange.
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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    Perhaps I should have made myself clearer. These are my problems with the refugee crisis we have at the moment.

    Are these really your best responses?



    Are you even trying?

    I don't have to try you and your friend are both nazis sympathisers. /
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    So why do you think the police used water canons against the protestors.
    Presumably for the same reason that police often use water cannons against protestors.
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    (Original post by Multiculturalism)
    :facepalm:
    The term Neo-Nazi has historical connotations. From wiki:

    'Neo-Nazism consists of post-World War II social or political movements seeking to revive the far-right-wing tenets of Nazism...'

    'Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia,antiziganism, antisemitism, and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature...'


    Now, explain to me how you were able to guess they believed in these things from a 'salute'.

    (Original post by Multiculturalism)
    Stop being a hate-speech apologist
    Define 'hate speech'.
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    I don't have to try you and your friend are both nazis sympathisers. /
    Do you have any evidence for this?
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Presumably for the same reason that police often use water cannons against protestors.
    Because some degenerate inferior scum who lost the war are showing themselves up as being nazis.
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    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    Do you have any evidence for this?
    Yes both of you are defending the right wing extreme aren't you?
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    I don't have to try you and your friend are both nazis sympathisers. /
    Hope you're not referring to me. I'm about as far removed from being a national socialist as a person can get. Supporting a Neo Nazi's right to protest doesn't make me a Neo Nazi. It makes me a libertarian and a democrat.
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    Yes both of you are defending the right wing extreme aren't you?
    My whole point, is that you are asserting that they are 'right wing extreme', without providing evidence.
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    Because some degenerate inferior scum who lost the war are showing themselves up as being nazis.
    Which war?
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Hope you're not referring to me. I'm about as far removed from being a national socialist as a person can get. Supporting a Neo Nazi's right to protest doesn't make me a Neo Nazi. It makes me a libertarian and a democrat.
    No joke the people on this thread are the sort of people who would describe themselves as 'progressive liberals' and would attempt to shut down any opinion which doesn't exactly align with their own. This thread has been a waste.
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    (Original post by Howard)
    Hope you're not referring to me. I'm about as far removed from being a national socialist as a person can get. Supporting a Neo Nazi's right to protest doesn't make me a Neo Nazi. It makes me a libertarian and a democrat.
    (Original post by Phoebe Buffay)
    My whole point, is that you are asserting that they are 'right wing extreme', without providing evidence.

    You and everyone else knows that ISIS is a fundamentalist group and as prejudiced as you are one and the same thing.
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    (Original post by Thomb)
    I don't have to try you and your friend are both nazis sympathisers. /
    Who are you referring to?
 
 
 
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