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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    I can understand why it could be very irritating to be picked up on what you see as your irrelevant choices of language rather than substance, but he handles this horribly. Someone so easily rattled cannot lead the country.

    (Original post by Davij038)
    What bornblue said. You do realise showing ridiculous articles like this actually raises support for Corbyn?
    You mean amongst that part of the Mail readership that might be on the fence?
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    (Original post by Christ Redeems)
    The video he is talking about is the first link in the OP, the video of him on Channel 4 is superfluous to his thread title (other than lending further evidence to Corbyn ostensibly being unstable and angry, etc).


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...adiq-Khan.html
    Thank you, actually I just noticed and edited accordingly - but I still think all he did with the black woman (her ethnicity matters why...?) was to snap too.

    It's a bit prissy of him but if this is supposed to be some kind of evidence that he is secretly a Stalinist genocide/Islamic terrorist, or whatever other wild conspiracy theories TSR's resident Corbyn hater wants us to believe, it's pretty thin fare.
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    I was almost born a girl and called Victoria....

    But I was born with different chromosomes; ended up a boy and was called Jonathan instead.

    But almost OP, almost.
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    (Original post by TimmonaPortella)
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    You mean amongst that part of the Mail readership that might be on the fence?
    I know it's hard to believe, but quite a few people who read the mail aren't reactionary shut ins. And probably a decent chunck are labour voters -(think suburban housewives not really interested in politics) My point was more broader generally with how some media outlets have been behaving.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    I know it's hard to believe, but quite a few people who read the mail aren't reactionary shut ins. And probably a decent chunck are labour voters -(think suburban housewives not really interested in politics) My point was more broader generally with how some media outlets have been behaving.
    Yes, I guess.

    I suppose I'm just disagreeing with your premise. This sort of attack might not damage him individually, but it does help to set the tone: particularly for people who won't necessarily look very deeply into the story, such as, for instance, suburban housewives who are not really interested in politics.
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    (Original post by scrotgrot)
    Thank you, actually I just noticed and edited accordingly - but I still think all he did with the black woman (her ethnicity matters why...?) was to snap too.

    It's a bit prissy of him but if this is supposed to be some kind of evidence that he is secretly a Stalinist genocide/Islamic terrorist, or whatever other wild conspiracy theories TSR's resident Corbyn hater wants us to believe, it's pretty thin fare.
    For someone who wishes to be Prime Minister, it is very relevant whether he is or is not able to keep his cool under pressure.
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    (Original post by Gwilym101)
    Corbyn: Can I finish?

    Interviewer: You can't, if its a long answer.

    What the ****? You're discussing the Israeli-Palestine conflict, and you don't want long answers to about a conflict that has been going on for decades.
    They weren't discussing the conflict, they were specifically discussing why Corbyn called them "friends", and he was changing the subject.

    The interviewer was entitled to stop him from waffling and trying to change the subject
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    They weren't discussing the conflict, they were specifically discussing why Corbyn called them "friends", and he was changing the subject.

    The interviewer was entitled to stop him from waffling and trying to change the subject
    Well he could have said something like "not if you're going to avoid answering the question", not what he actually said which if Corbyn actually did that would mean any answers he gave would be meaningless as there are no short answers to that whole situation.
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    (Original post by Gwilym101)
    Well he could have said something like "not if you're going to avoid answering the question", not what he actually said which if Corbyn actually did that would mean any answers he gave would be meaningless as there are no short answers to that whole situation.
    The interviewer wasn't asking about "that whole situation", though of course Corbyn self-interestedly tried to make it about that.

    He was specifically asked why he had referred to as "friends" a group that calls for the extermination of all Jews worldwide in its charter. This is a group that literally calls for every Jew on the planet to be killed.

    And Corbyn's answer in claiming this was merely some kind of diplomatic nicety is complete bull-****. Corbyn went on to praise Hamas and Hezbollah's quote "dedication to peace and social justice".

    Corbyn has form for becoming angry and unstable, or unctuously patronising, when asked a question he doesn't want to answer. He's quite an angry and brittle man (that's without getting into all his grubby business deals, the cash from property developers, the payments from homophobic sources, his hypocrisy in accepting money from privatisation merchants etc). It's bizarre that the hard left constantly claims he is this amazingly peaceable, sainted man. He is nothing of the sort
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    (Original post by mughushed)
    Socialism doesn't equal being utterly calm and unaffected all the time.
    Of course socialism doesn't equal that. I myself am a socialist.

    I'm only holding Corbyn to the standards his supporters claim for him; that he is a saintly, peaceful man. Almost angelic in his inner peace and tolerance for all creatures. A man of unquestionable personal integrity.

    None of these things are true. The evidence shows he has less personal control than most politicians, and comes across as quite an angry man. More so than most. On the question of personal integrity, his grubby business deals speak for themselves.

    He is still, shockingly enough, human - everyone gets vexed from time to time.
    Corbyn tends to get vexed by being asked questions he doesn't want to answer. He shouted at a journalist for asking him about the Hamas thing (not just the video I embedded, on another occasion he was asked about it during an interview, after the interview he took the journalist aside and grabbed her by the arm and started ranting)

    When she spoke out about his behaviour, his followers started threatening her on Twitter. This is the "newer, kinder politics".
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    I think the OP may have a crush on Corbyn
    You don't like it when I bring up your cult leader's failings?
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    The interviewer wasn't asking about "that whole situation", though of course Corbyn self-interestedly tried to make it about that.

    He was specifically asked why he had referred to as "friends" a group that calls for the extermination of all Jews worldwide in its charter. This is a group that literally calls for every Jew on the planet to be killed.

    And Corbyn's answer in claiming this was merely some kind of diplomatic nicety is complete bull-****. Corbyn went on to praise Hamas and Hezbollah's quote "dedication to peace and social justice".

    Corbyn has form for becoming angry and unstable, or unctuously patronising, when asked a question he doesn't want to answer. He's quite an angry and brittle man (that's without getting into all his grubby business deals, the cash from property developers, the payments from homophobic sources, his hypocrisy in accepting money from privatisation merchants etc). It's bizarre that the hard left constantly claims he is this amazingly peaceable, sainted man. He is nothing of the sort
    But even saying that you must recognize that accusing him of 'nearly hitting someone' and implying it was racially aggravated, when nothing like that happened at all, is unacceptable and gutter politics.

    Things like this play into the corbynistas hands. There's enough to criticise him on without making up stories about him nearly carrying out a racist assault.

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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    But even saying that you must recognize that accusing him of 'nearly hitting someone' and implying it was racially aggravated, when nothing like that happened at all, is unacceptable and gutter politics.
    I did not claim it was racially based, I was merely pointing out an innocent black woman was the recipient of his aggressive behaviour; the reason for pointing out her race is that black people are already more likely to be the subject of violence against them, and women are too. For her to have had this unpleasant man leering at her and looking like he was about to hit her, it must have been quite frightening.

    Furthermore, any unwanted touching is a battery according to the law, and from what I can see from the video he did almost touch her, and may actually have touched her. There is no denying the aggressive character of what he did, and as a law student I would say it constitutes an assault (which is not a physical attack, but causing the apprehension/fear of unlawful violence. The video would indicate she did fear he was going to physically interact with her, she moved back). He couldn't work out who had been asking him the unwanted questions, so he just loomed over the closest person he could find.

    He clearly has anger issues, his response in the Krishnan Guru-Murthy interview, his ranting at Cathy Newman for asking him about his anti-semitic links, the way he deals with any kind of frustration, shows the kind of man he is. In any interview that isn't conducted by a fawning devotee or hard leftist, he adopts a tone of barely concealed contempt, a sort of pained irritation that he has to put up with journalists at all.

    The Corbynista are the ones who have set him up as a saint; who claimed he is almost superhuman in his inner peace, reserve and peaceable nature. They have claimed for him these ludicrous qualities, and thus they have brought on themselves the strong focus on his obvious lack of equanimity and lack of even an average level of self-control and capacity to deal with frustration

    Things like this play into the corbynistas hands
    Oh please. Non-Corbynista are interested to know about his character, and this incident shows something of his very low threshold for frustration and irritation. The Corbynista themselves are so enmeshed in their little cult that it doesn't matter what is said, who gives a **** what they think?

    In any case, it's unclear how Corbyn behaving like a lunatic and almost battering an innocent woman "plays into their hands".
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    (Original post by BeastOfSyracuse)
    You don't like it when I bring up your cult leader's failings?
    More you sound like a confused young boy who obsesses and picks on the girl he has confused feelings about
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    More you sound like a confused young boy who obsesses and picks on the girl he has confused feelings about
    What a fascinating analogy. It's quite interesting in what it reveals about you. I take it you've experienced these confused feelings many times?
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    More you sound like a confused young boy who obsesses and picks on the girl he has confused feelings about
    I also find it interesting that you find my raising these issues about Corbyn so personally upsetting that you start lashing out and hysterically attacking me.

    I suppose that is the nature of cults of personality. You feel an almost libidinous connection to your dear leader, so when you perceive he is being attacked, you become upset and angry and attempt to strike at the source
 
 
 
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