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    It is open season on Islam these days,with conservative critics making remark after remark that attack Islam,Muslims, the Qur'an, and the Prophet Muhammad as pervasively and inherently bad. An essential argument these conservatives and others have against Islam is that the Qur'an preaches violence.

    The most popular verse quoted is the fabled Verse of the Sword: "Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them: seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)." (9:5) On the surface, this verse seems to confirm Islam's perceived intolerance of non-Muslims. It may even lead one to conclude that all the talk about Islam being a religion of"peace" is a ruse, and that the real Islam is the violent, repressive faith practiced by Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. But hold on....! The truth is quite different from what these Islam's attackers want us to believe.I must address a few very important points here. For there to be any semblance of an intelligent and scholarly analysis of verses of the Qur'an, a full understanding of the Arabic language along with understanding of the context of the verses in question is an essential prerequisite. In fact, this must be the scholarly approach to the exegesis of any book of scripture, including the Hebrew and Christian Bibles.Volumes upon volumes have been written by numerous Islamic scholars, both classical and modern, that attempt to interpret the meaning of the over 6,000 verses of the Qur'an. Qur'anic exegesis is an academic discipline in itself,and it requires years of learning before a scholar is able to independently comment on Qur'anic scripture. Neither Islam's conservative critics, nor the"scholars" and "experts" they read and quote from in their writings, possess such knowledge. What they do is misquote, mistranslate,or quote Qur'anic verses out of context and use those misquotations as evidence for their claims. These tactics violate every rule of Scriptural Exegesis 101.
    When the infamous "Verse of the Sword" is studied in its proper context, it becomes quite clear that the claim the Qur'an is violent is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. From the very beginning of his mission, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was violently opposed by his people. At first, the Pagan Arabs simply ignored the Prophet's call and ridiculed his message.They quickly realized, however, that this tactic did not stop the flow of converts to Islam. The Meccans then turned to torture and repression of Muhammad and his companions to try to muffle his message, which was nothing more than the abandonment of the worship of idols for the worship of the One True God. Muhammad himself survived several assassination attempts. In one of these, a Meccan tried to crush the Prophet's head with a large boulder while he was praying at the Ka'abah, the holy shrine at Mecca. God, however,miraculously foiled the attempt and the Prophet was saved.





    After 10 years of hardship, the Meccans finally expelled the Prophet to Medina, a city 200 miles to the north. Since they could not kill him, this was the only thing the Meccans could do to stop the Prophet's message. There, the inhabitants of Medina accepted Islam, and it became the first Islamic city-state with the Prophet Muhammad as its spiritual and political leader. While in Medina, the Meccan pagans did not relent in their hostilities against the Muslims. Now,however, many surrounding tribes also became hostile to Islam and joined in the Meccans' fight. Several battles were fought against the Muslims. These tribes also attempted to assassinate the Prophet on several occasions, as the Meccans tried a decade earlier.
    It is in this violent context that verse 9:5 was revealed. The commandment to "slay the pagans wherever you find them" in verse 9:5 speaks of the hostile Arab tribes surrounding Medina. At every given chance, these tribes attacked the Muslims and killed as many of them as possible for no just cause! Frequently, columnists and pundits who try to smear Islam quote verse 9:5 incompletely and out of context. The full verse reads as follows: "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them: seize them, beleaguer them,and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent,establish regular prayers, and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."

    If one reads on in the ninth chapter, the reasons for "slaying the pagans" is clearly outlined: "Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger,and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them?Nay, it is God Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!" (9:13) When sincere scholarship and exegesis is applied, it becomes quite clear that verse 9:5, and all others similar to it,is one of self-defense!! and NOT a carte blanche to kill all non-believers, as some would want us to believe.

    In fact, the principle of fighting in Islam is self-defense: "To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, God is most powerful for their aid...If God did not defend one set of people by means of another, then monasteries, churches, synagogues,and mosques, in which the name of God is commemorated in abundant measure,would surely have been destroyed..."(22:39-40)

    Notice that the reason the Qur'an gives for waging war, as a last resort, is for the protection of churches, synagogues, and mosques--so much for Islam's "intolerance."

    Further, Muslims are commanded not to be aggressive: "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors" (2:190) In addition, when the enemy inclines toward peace, Muslims are commanded to cease hostilities: "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace"(8:61). The guiding principle of Islam with respect to non-Muslims is one of tolerance and mutual respect, plain and simple: "God does not forbid you from dealing kindly and justly with those who do not fight you for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes: for Godloveth those who are just."(60:8)

    Then there is the issue of how the Qur'an treats Jews and Christians. Some have claimed that the Qur'an saysJ ews are consigned to "humiliation and wretchedness" (2:61), try to introduce corruption (5:64), have always been disobedient (5:78), and are enemies of God (2:97-98). When addressing verses that, on the surface, seem to be derogatory toward Jews,again, it is essential that the verses be placed in context! (remember Scriptural Exegesis 101).

    Verse 2:61 refers to those of the Children of Israel who were disobedient to Moses after being freed from Egyptian bondage, not all Jews. The text of verses 2:97-98 refer to those who are "enemies of Archangel Gabriel," not Jews. Verses 5:64 and 5:78 speak of the Jews who were disobedient to God and His Prophets, again not all Jews.

    When sincere scholarship and exegesis is applied to the Qur'an, it becomes a clear that the claim of the Qur'an's anti-Semitism is an absurd fallacy!!!

    In the Qur'an, Jews and Christians are given the honorific title of "People of the Book." The Prophet was the last in the line of Prophets and Messengers, dating back to Adam, and Islam is nothing more than the continuation and completion of their message.Thus, the Qur'an acknowledges and respects the prior messages of Moses and Jesus.

    The Torah is described as "aguide to mankind" (3:3) andthe Gospel of Jesus as having "guidance and light" (5:46). While the Qur'an rejects the notion ofthe divinity and crucifixion of Jesus, the JewishProphets that are named in the Qur'an are highly honoured: "And we gave him [Abraham] Isaac and Jacob,each did We guide, and Noah We did guide before; and of his descendants David,Solomon, Job, Joseph, and Aaron; and thus do We reward those who do good. AndZechariah, John (the Baptist), Jesus, and Elias; everyone was of the righteous.And Ishmael, Elisha, Jonah, and Lot; each one we favoured above allothers" (6:84-86).

    Further belying the accusationof the Qur'an's anti-Judeo-Christian stance is this passage: "Those who believe and those who are Jews,Christians, and Sabeans; any who believe in God and the Last Day and workrighteousness shall have their reward with their Lord and on them shall be nofear and they will not grieve"(2:62).

    Ineither deny nor dismiss the existence of Muslims who use the Qur'an to justifytheir acts of terrorism and murder. TheseMuslims, like Islam's conservative critics, also misquote or quote the Qur'anout of context. Infact, anyone with sinister intentionscan quote a verse of scripture out of context to seemingly prove a point!Biblical verses, quoted out of context, have been used to condone murder,violence, slavery, racism, and anti-Semitism, all in the name of God,throughout history. Further, take this passage from I Corinthians: "Forthe man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the mancreated for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians11:8-9) Can I conclude that Christianity is a sexist religion that seeks to oppresswomen? Is it fair to characterize misinterpretations of Biblical scripture astenets of Christianity or Judaism? Absolutely not!.. Islam must be accorded this same treatment!
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    And your point is...
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    I'm so glad we finally have an authoritative source on the Qu'ran.

    Do be sure to send this to ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban and other terrorist groups. I'm sure they will realise the error of their ways and conform to your interpretation of the scripture.

    Whilst you're at it, perhaps send a letter to the various Muslim countries where apostasy is punishable by death. I'm sure if you explain that this practice, accepted by mainstream Islam and most traditional scholars, is incompatible with your version of Islam then they will understand.

    You're also of course right to challenge the notion that Muhammad is inherently bad. How anyone can make this assumption based only on the fact that he was a warlord who raped a 9 year old girl is very unfair.

    It is indeed bizarre that all these deaths in the name of Islam have led people to question whether Islam is necessarily a religion of peace. But thanks to your insight we can now rest easy, safe in the knowledge that you are right and all those Muslim countries and scholars have simply misunderstood the qu'ran.

    Thank you so much.
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    tl;dr
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    (Original post by elforjg02)
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    What makes your interpretation of the Quran the 'right' one and ISIS the wrong one?
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    What difference will it make if i go out of my way and also copy and paste an entire webpage disproving everything you just said?

    This long quote doesn't change the fact that

    1. Islam is an inherently violent religion and not The religion of peace
    2. Thousands of Islamic terrorist organisations cite and use the Qur'an to appeal to MILLIONS of potential terrorists
    3. 3,000 people have died in the last 31 days based solely on Islamic terrorism
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    Its longer than i thought
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    Also, their is no context that will ever justify this

    Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods"
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    (Original post by datmofo)
    Also, their is no context that will ever justify this

    Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods"


    LOL, apparently looking at the context makes quotes like "I have been made victorious through TERROR " said by their prophet in Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220, seem peaceful
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    Islam is the only religion in my eyes that has brought so much to our society.
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    (Original post by Oliver_94)
    Islam is the only religion in my eyes that has brought so much TERROR to our society.



    Right, exactly
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    Right, exactly
    You do realise it is a violation of terms and conditions to manipulate quotes and modify them for political motive?
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    (Original post by Oliver_94)
    You do realise it is a violation of terms and conditions to manipulate quotes and modify them for political motive?


    You can sue me anytime you want.
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    (Original post by Oliver_94)
    You do realise it is a violation of terms and conditions to manipulate quotes and modify them for political motive?
    Like the Muslims always do with this verse:

    QURAN 5:32 "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."
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    (Original post by elforjg02)
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    10/10 for effort!!
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    (Original post by datmofo)
    Like the Muslims always do with this verse:

    QURAN 5:32 "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."


    They always miss out the "Children of Israel" part and the fact that the VERY NEXT VERSE.

    Quran 5:33 says this

    "Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter, 34 unless they repent before you overpower them: in that case bear in mind that God is forgiving and merciful."








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    (Original post by datmofo)
    Like the Muslims always do with this verse:

    QURAN 5:32 "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."
    So true, this quote is used always used on social media. Little do the kuffar know that this verse doesn't even apply to them.
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    (Original post by NickLCFC)
    So true, this quote is used always used on social media. Little do the kuffar know that this verse doesn't even apply to them.
    To be honest I think some Muslims haven't even bothered to read the full verse or the verse after that, they just believe everything their imam tells them.
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    (Original post by datmofo)
    To be honest I think some Muslims haven't even bothered to read the full verse or the verse after that, they just believe everything their imam tells them.
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    (Original post by wdkmwd)
    What difference will it make if i go out of my way and also copy and paste an entire webpage disproving everything you just said?

    This long quote doesn't change the fact that

    1. Islam is an inherently violent religion and not The religion of peace
    2. Thousands of Islamic terrorist organisations cite and use the Qur'an to appeal to MILLIONS of potential terrorists
    3. 3,000 people have died in the last 31 days based solely on Islamic terrorism
    1. That is just your ridiculous and brainless opinion.
    2. If it were millions, there would have been a lot more assaults.
    3. Over 80 million people died in 6 years because of the greed and hate of a German (yes not Arabic) man. And this doesn't make all Germans, Atheists or western people bad.

    Go home, drink a whiskey, and forget about your miserable life for a while.
 
 
 
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