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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    So, if the situation called for it would you take a larger state school in the US (like top 30-40) over UCL/LSE? In case it's bad news from the uber top ones again.

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    I'm not sure if I would to be honest. I guess it depends on the uni (I quite like UC San Diego). It most certainly would lack the unique pros I find in the USA private schools, but no doubt, it also provides me with some academic opportunities I would prefer over a UK school.

    I also don't know if I'm allowed to defer one year and apply to other schools in the USA? Not sure if that would be against UCAS policy, but I would try to do that so at least, I have one school to go to in a worst case scenario
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    I'm not sure if I would to be honest. I guess it depends on the uni (I quite like UC San Diego). It most certainly would lack the unique pros I find in the USA private schools, but no doubt, it also provides me with some academic opportunities I would prefer over a UK school.

    I also don't know if I'm allowed to defer one year and apply to other schools in the USA? Not sure if that would be against UCAS policy, but I would try to do that so at least, I have one school to go to in a worst case scenario
    You can certainly do that! The two application systems are not connected in any way.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    You can certainly do that! The two application systems are not connected in any way.

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    Phew that's what I was hoping! Thanks for confirming this! Shame I've had to make my uni situation a bit complicated but so be it I guess :P
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    (Original post by Scruffyjoe)
    Overrated: Manchester for sure (this refers to the way university puts itself out there - makes it sound as if it's amazing when it really is a piece of ****)

    Underrated: SOAS especially in the last few years.

    I went to Manchester and I highly regret it today. I wish I had gone to SOAS instead. Not only is the amazing for law, the faculty is brilliant it has ties with Columbia university so they have exchanges of students and faculty all the time.

    I am super jealous of people who have gone to or are going to SOAS now. And my advice yo anyone thinking of going to Manchester - DONT DO IT!!

    I applied for uni in 2008 (old!) but my a level grades weren't good enough so I decided to take the foundation route. I wish I had known at that point that SOAS does foundation courses as well. I would have definitely applied. Biggest regret of my life!!!
    For what reasons exactly do you think Manchester is a pile of ****? Because as an undergrad there I honestly have no clue what you're talking about.

    To try and discourage people by telling them not to go there and call it overrated based on one persons experience from 8 years ago is highly deceitful when you haven't even given any reasons whatsoever as to why your experience there wasn't as good as everyone elses.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    For what reasons exactly do you think Manchester is a pile of ****? Because as an undergrad there I honestly have no clue what you're talking about.

    To try and discourage people by telling them not to go there and call it overrated based on one persons experience from 8 years ago is highly deceitful when you haven't even given any reasons whatsoever as to why your experience there wasn't as good as everyone elses.
    Whether my experience is 8 years old or not is irrekevant. The university experience should nonetheless be good no matter how many years ago it was.

    I didnt give reasons because most people on this forum haven't and I don't think this is the kind of forum where you can elaborate on why you didn't have a good uni experience I guess.

    But since you asked I'll tell you my reasons:
    Manchesyer isn't particularly good for law. The faculty is pretty average (in terms of their qualifications and research) whereas soas has a brilliant law faculty. The law school ranking is pretty horrific in the national league tables and international as well. Most importantly Manchester suffers from a bad reputation syndrome for some strange reason and that has definitely affected the way I look at it and think about it. I'm ashamed to say that I went to this university at work, on Facebook and even LinkedIn just because it has such a bad reputation. Of course this is what I have experienced. You might not have experienced this.

    As an alumni I do think I have a right to be able to share my honest thoughts on my university. I do have a right to talk about it as much as you do even if it's negatively.

    Hope that explains my point to you.
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    (Original post by Scruffyjoe)
    Overrated: Manchester for sure (this refers to the way university puts itself out there - makes it sound as if it's amazing when it really is a piece of ****)

    Underrated: SOAS especially in the last few years.

    I went to Manchester and I highly regret it today. I wish I had gone to SOAS instead. Not only is the amazing for law, the faculty is brilliant it has ties with Columbia university so they have exchanges of students and faculty all the time.

    I am super jealous of people who have gone to or are going to SOAS now. And my advice yo anyone thinking of going to Manchester - DONT DO IT!!

    I applied for uni in 2008 (old!) but my a level grades weren't good enough so I decided to take the foundation route. I wish I had known at that point that SOAS does foundation courses as well. I would have definitely applied. Biggest regret of my life!!!

    What the hell are you talking about? Manchester is one of the most underrated unis. Their engineering department looked great. It's by far the most impressive uni I've visited (well excluding imperial). And I've been to 8 RG Unis so far. You having a bad experience doest make the entire uni bad. I have friends doing law there and they love it. Maybe you were just bad at the course?

    And you genuinely sound like you're talking out your ass. What bad reputation styndrome? It has one of the best reputations in England. All you have to do is look at international rankings to see proof lol.


    6th best academic reputation in the UK
    30th in the world

    http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...=false+search=
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    6th best employer reputation in the UK. 13th in the world

    http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...=false+search=


    SOAS looks dodgy though. How can a uni specialise in African studies? What even is that? Memorising african capitals?
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    (Original post by Lawliettt)
    What the hell are you talking about? Manchester is one of the most underrated unis. Their engineering department looked great. It's by far the most impressive uni I've visited (well excluding imperial). And I've been to 8 RG Unis so far. You having a bad experience doest make the entire uni bad. I have friends doing law there and they love it. Maybe you were just bad at the course?

    And you genuinely sound like you're talking out your ass. What bad reputation styndrome? It has one of the best reputations in England. All you have to do is look at international rankings to see proof lol.


    6th best academic reputation in the UK
    30th in the world

    http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...=false+search=
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    6th best employer reputation in the UK. 13th in the world

    http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...=false+search=


    SOAS looks dodgy though. How can a uni specialise in African studies? What even is that? Memorising african capitals?

    First of all, I don't understand why everyone has to resort to being rude. I'm not talking "out of my ass"! Maybe you do that.

    Honestly, I didn't have a bad uni experience at all. I had amazing friends, loved my time at uni and was also quite proud of the uni, till I started working. Everyone at work laughs at me because they think I have wasted my parents money by going to Manchester, I'm an international student by the way (was)

    It's so hard to hear that I have wasted three years at a place that isn't respected. It makes me sad which is why I'm advising people not to go there. Maybe it's not my place to do that but I'm just writing from my experience. I wish people didn't make me feel like **** about my university (and I'm talking about my sister and parents as well) i really do regret going to Manchester.

    I don't think I was bad at the course, because if I was I wouldn't have ended up with a 2:1. I was relatively okay at my course and I even enjoyed it. But I do think Manchester can do a lot to improve its faculty (most of them have studied from Manchester and not Oxbridge or Ivy leagues like they have at soas) the law faculty at SOAS is amazing! They have tutors/lecturers from Columbia, Stanford and Harvard. Which is amazing! I also think Manchester can do a lot to improve their entry standards, tighten their acceptance rate and overall bring the law school up to par with what is expected from an internationally renowned university.

    In the REF (law) they scored 29 which is piss poor, so they really should improve their research quality, which will only happen if they upgrade their faculty to better qualified people and lower their acc prance rate on the program (in my cohort alone we had over 400 people doing law!!!)

    I'm just disappointed with my experience yes!
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    (Original post by frognation22)
    Thanks for the advice though, and keeping up with my overly negative attitude haha I know I've bombarded you the past few days with quite a bit of ranting so thanks for being so patient as I really do appreciate it!
    You are welcome.

    But there are something I'm a little bit concerned about from your last post. I don't want to get involved into your personal issues really, however do you think you are aware enough where your motivation of the gap year comes from?

    I think you had better avoid all US public universities (possibly even including UC Berkley), because you will regret like "I pay huge out of state fee, more than my brother pays, and this huge class size with too many unmotivated students? Then what was the meaning of my gap year... sigh.".

    If i'm not mistaken, your dissatisfaction with your situation right now comes from two reasons.

    1. You want to fill the gap between your brother and you as much as possible. Even you may want to be better than him (if I consider the situation he chose Chicago, then you applied only Stanford, MIT and Columbia).

    2. Your academic achievement and your huge effort must be evaluated fairly. Otherwise the world is too unfair.

    There are many people who got high marks, and more than happy to apply and choose average Russell Group universities in cities where they live, and never questioned about their decision. But you are clearly not one of them. Why?

    And one more thing. You were initially happy with being accepted by UCL, then you felt like you got awfully scammed. And you think the unhappiest part is vastly overrated reputation and its students believing QS rankings like a holy bible. But wait, why not simply being a part of them and just enjoy this ritual? There are always 2 solutions when people face "cognitive dissonance". And you clearly didn't want to choose the other solution(deny yourself and accept the situation). After all, there is no law and no right answer about how to perceive universities. Your choice looks meaningful, doesn't it?

    Plus when I showed the alternative solution to switch your course to Liberal arts at UCL, you even didn't check it out and decide to contact university representatives to know how the course is like and seek the possibility of having a similar quality of US education. Your behavior implies you are actually not seeking "the quality of education", though you excuse yourself you are suffering because of this reason. (I'm sorry if I'm going to insult you even more, but believe me I only want to help you)

    I assume, the issue lies under your family relations rather than any superficial reasons. You admire your brother and the way he's been doing. So you are against the people who aren't like him and deny him/his effort easily. You want to go to a college like the one where your brother studies ,because you want to confirm him and be a part of your family identity. (Furthermore, perhaps you want your parents being proud of you like they do to your brother).

    If he studied at London Met, and your parents were more than happy about his attendance at a university, proud of him, because they had never been educated, do you think you would still perceive the situation in the same way?

    Everyone on the earth wants to be loved and admired by his/er most important people. So this is really normal behavior as a human, even proving you are not natural born psychopath.

    Maybe my assumption is not true at all. But in any case, I think you had better develop your self-awareness a bit more to not regret your future decision any more.


    What I wanted to say is, I think you shouldn't compromise your identity for the sake of your mental health, unless it has some ethical problem. And going back to the main topic, if your SAT/GPA are really some of the best as you said, you will be almost safely accepted, or at least wait-listed by some tier 2 universities, I'll show you two top 20 universities who accept academic high scorers no matter how their other backgrounds are.

    Vanderbilt University(15th)



    Notre Dame(18th)


    Also Chicago(4th) and Duke(8th) have statistic tendencies to accept academic top achievers whatever other elements are. At least not like Ivies whose decisions are unpredictable and chaotic even if you are one of the top. No need to make the distance between you and your brother even wider than now by attending UCSD.

    sorry for my long annoying judgmental comment. I hope you don't mind about it, and it is somehow useful.
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    Thank you for this insight! I wouldn't say this is from familial pressure however. Both parents attended a HYPSM university and yes, my brother did go on to UChicago. But I never felt the pressure from them to attend these schools. In fact, it's always been the pressure I have placed on myself to go to these schools. I'm a naturally competitive person so yes, when I was not accepted to these places, it hurt perhaps more than it hurt some others. In a sense, it felt, well, I was inferior to those around me-- even though I know that's the last thing they think of me, and they're so proud of my accomplishments.

    So essentially, you are quite right...part of this stems from my self-insecurities. I don't think its seeking validation from my family, but more definitely comparing the experiences I'll get compared to what my father, mother and brother have received. I.e. "I'm so jealous that they have gotten an even better education than I have!!"

    Yes, I am a huge perfectionist and am always striving for the best--I find it difficult to settle with what I have, and I acknowledge this problem and it has been something I've been working on.

    As awfully arrogant as it sounds (sorry), money is not an issue so it, well, has not played a role in me choosing which university suits me best.

    But a huge part of this also comes from just overall being dissatisfied with the education I have received in the UK.

    The one thing I do disagree with you is that I don't think my academic merit has to be evaluated on a fair-basis. I understand that (and quite enjoy) American admissions is very holistic and seeks well-rounded applicants. Instead of dwelling over the fact that admissions didn't consider me well enough or have a silly attitude such as "Screw them for not seeing the best in me!", I dwell over the fact that I was unable to portray myself as a well-rounded applicant. I was unable to showcase my talents and convince them.

    So really, if anything-I have always put the blame on myself.

    With large public universities, they will have less advantages for sure. As a result, its difficult for me to tell whether I would like going to UCL over a school like UC Berkeley or vice versa. Like you said, large schools have larger class sizes, their general education requirements tend to be much broader and scrambled than the ones required at private universities etc.

    No doubt, these are all negatives to me, but at the same time I still have a general background of different academic fields, can specialise in two completely different degrees, have more module selections etc

    You're correct--with UCL's liberal arts programme-- I can most certainly specialise in two areas. Yet this does not take away the fact that the programme lacks a lot of flexibility in terms of module selections and more.

    I actually applied to UCL's natural sciences programme--where I can specialise in two areas as well. I applied for the mathematics stream, but I would not have to decide which two academic streams I'd like to focus on until the middle of first year (so I could actually do Policy and Ethics alongside Physics instead) Y

    I thought this was a wonderful programme, but then again, I attended Open Day and started researching more about it and realised that sure there is more flexibility degree-wise, but again, I am so incredibly limited in module selections as compared to the USA.
    Not to mention, factoring in there's only around 80 hours worth of lectures/seminars in a term compared to approx 225 hours in the United States.

    Yes UCL might be rated highly in league tables, but what does that matter when I don't think the teaching quality could ever match up to its 'rank?" At the end of the day, it is not about attending a school for superficial reasons such as prestige

    Props to the many students who choose to attend a large state school over a HYPSM school. I applaud these students for believing a school like UC Berkeley can offer more to them than CalTech, and not giving into a HYPSM level school simply because it sounds more prestigious.

    However, I do not see myself as one of these students and that is largely because the environment I crave for in university is something only private universities can provide me (HYPSM or not--i.e. I would love Swarthmore, Pomona, Vassar, Barnard etc)

    With that said, lets say I got into Warwick and UC Santa Barbara. I would, as a matter of fact, still choose the latter.
    If it was UC Santa Barbara or UCL? Honestly, I still find myself leaning to this top 30-40 school over UCL. So as mentioned before, when it really boils down to choosing, prestige isn't necessarily a factor I really consider (Even though my posts might have come across this way)

    Sorry I know this is a long response-- I wrote it fairly quickly so if its a bit confusing at some parts, apologies!
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    (Original post by Scruffyjoe)
    First of all, I don't understand why everyone has to resort to being rude. I'm not talking "out of my ass"! Maybe you do that.

    Honestly, I didn't have a bad uni experience at all. I had amazing friends, loved my time at uni and was also quite proud of the uni, till I started working. Everyone at work laughs at me because they think I have wasted my parents money by going to Manchester, I'm an international student by the way (was)

    It's so hard to hear that I have wasted three years at a place that isn't respected. It makes me sad which is why I'm advising people not to go there. Maybe it's not my place to do that but I'm just writing from my experience. I wish people didn't make me feel like **** about my university (and I'm talking about my sister and parents as well) i really do regret going to Manchester.

    I don't think I was bad at the course, because if I was I wouldn't have ended up with a 2:1. I was relatively okay at my course and I even enjoyed it. But I do think Manchester can do a lot to improve its faculty (most of them have studied from Manchester and not Oxbridge or Ivy leagues like they have at soas) the law faculty at SOAS is amazing! They have tutors/lecturers from Columbia, Stanford and Harvard. Which is amazing! I also think Manchester can do a lot to improve their entry standards, tighten their acceptance rate and overall bring the law school up to par with what is expected from an internationally renowned university.

    In the REF (law) they scored 29 which is piss poor, so they really should improve their research quality, which will only happen if they upgrade their faculty to better qualified people and lower their acc prance rate on the program (in my cohort alone we had over 400 people doing law!!!)

    I'm just disappointed with my experience yes!
    Okay, where to start. For one, you have only experienced one of the MANY courses there and you think that this gives you the authority to advise EVERYONE thinking of going there not to. If you don't speak for the majority of current and past students of the law department, you certainly don't speak for every student's experience of their respective department. I highly doubt that for example, their Physics department (for which I a student of) that has been ranked as far as top 3 in Europe, has A*A*A A level entry reqs, is one of the leading departments in the world for physics research, is as you imply a **** department. Honestly, you deserve all the rudeness you're getting.

    Your "analysis" of the Law department and its rep is false. Lets have a look at the rankings shall we: http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...=false+search= 11th, https://www.timeshighereducation.com...cols/rank_only 7th, http://www.shanghairanking.com/FieldSOC2015.html 6th, http://www.usnews.com/education/best...-health?page=2 8th, meanwhile SOAS is nowhere to be found. Its a top 10 uni for Law and in general which you will find plenty of rankings confirming, these people and your parents/sister whom laugh at you are evidently uneducated on what are and are not reputable/respected unis. If as you are claiming it as seen as such a poor uni for law, why would that make it overrated?

    Finally, here we have the strangest part of it all http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...701&highlight=. If you don't want anyone to go to Manchester, why then would you tell someone asking where to go for computer science of all things with "University of Manchester"? Lol, so odd, so very very odd.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Okay, where to start. For one, you have only experienced one of the MANY courses there and you think that this gives you the authority to advise EVERYONE thinking of going there not to. If you don't speak for the majority of current and past students of the law department, you certainly don't speak for every student's experience of their respective department. I highly doubt that for example, their Physics department (for which I a student of) that has been ranked as far as top 3 in Europe, has A*A*A A level entry reqs, is one of the leading departments in the world for physics research, is as you imply a **** department. Honestly, you deserve all the rudeness you're getting.

    Your "analysis" of the Law department and its rep is false. Lets have a look at the rankings shall we: http://www.topuniversities.com/unive...=false+search= 11th, https://www.timeshighereducation.com...cols/rank_only 7th, http://www.shanghairanking.com/FieldSOC2015.html 6th, http://www.usnews.com/education/best...-health?page=2 8th, meanwhile SOAS is nowhere to be found. Its a top 10 uni for Law and in general which you will find plenty of rankings confirming, these people and your parents/sister whom laugh at you are evidently uneducated on what are and are not reputable/respected unis. If as you are claiming it as seen as such a poor uni for law, why would that make it overrated?

    Finally, here we have the strangest part of it all http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...701&highlight=. If you don't want anyone to go to Manchester, why then would you tell someone asking where to go for computer science of all things with "University of Manchester"? Lol, so odd, so very very odd.
    Firstly, no one "deserves" rudeness. I have a right to express my opinion on what I think about my university as do you and everyone else on this forum! Please get that through your thick head.

    The rankings you are referring to are the international ones and not the domestic/national ones so there is a bit of inconsistency there in terms of law rankings. Yes, SOAS isn't in the top ten or whatever but it's well respected at my work place etc etc and that's why I wish I had gone there instead.

    FYI, I never called the physics department '*****y'. So get your facts straight!

    Lastly, thanks for stalking me on other threads as well!! I don't owe anyone an explanation as to what I have written here or on any other threads! So now you can put your head back in your ass or wherever it was before. Bye!!
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Okay, where to start. For one, you have only experienced one of the MANY courses there and you think that this gives you the authority to advise EVERYONE thinking of going there not to. If you don't speak for the majority of current and past students of the law department, you certainly don't speak for every student's experience of their respective department. I highly doubt that for example, their Physics department (for which I a student of) that has been ranked as far as top 3 in Europe, has A*A*A A level entry reqs, is one of the leading departments in the world for physics research, is as you imply a **** department. Honestly, you deserve all the rudeness you're getting.
    Someone trying to sound smart with their use of prepositions and not quite succeeding.
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    (Original post by Scruffyjoe)
    Firstly, no one "deserves" rudeness. I have a right to express my opinion on what I think about my university as do you and everyone else on this forum! Please get that through your thick head.
    You deserve rudeness in the same way a troll deserves rudeness, something that I'm beginning to suspect you are considering how irrational you are being. You have the right to express your opinion, I have the right to explain why your opinion holds no merit, it's a pretty simple concept.

    (Original post by Scruffyjoe)
    The rankings you are referring to are the international ones and not the domestic/national ones so there is a bit of inconsistency there in terms of law rankings. Yes, SOAS isn't in the top ten or whatever but it's well respected at my work place etc etc and that's why I wish I had gone there instead.
    Domestic rankings are largely inaccurate and inconsistent, it doesn't take a minute to realise how messed up they are after having a look at them. You're never going to make any reliable conclusion from them, which is why international rankings are the only real thing to go off if anything. Besides, why as an international student would you be going off domestic rankings? That literally makes no sense.

    (Original post by Scruffyjoe)
    FYI, I never called the physics department '*****y'. So get your facts straight!

    Lastly, thanks for stalking me on other threads as well!! I don't owe anyone an explanation as to what I have written here or on any other threads! So now you can put your head back in your ass or wherever it was before. Bye!!
    Do you suffer from short term memory loss? Have a look back at your earlier posts where you **** on the entire university, as if to use your experiences and infer that they must be the same for everyone. I merely provided the Physics dept as an example.

    Stalking? LOL, get a grip, I came across you on that thread and found your post rather contradictory to your argument, hence the suspicion of trollness.

    (Original post by Nameless Ghoul)
    Someone trying to sound smart with their use of prepositions and not quite succeeding.
    Someone trying to be witty by making quips over a typo, because pointing out typos isn't considered a pastime for special people trying to be smart.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    Someone trying to be witty by making quips over a typo, because pointing out typos isn't considered a pastime for special people trying to be smart.
    I didn't realise "a" was a preposition.
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    I didn't realise "a" was a preposition.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    And another one adds me to their ignore list. I am starting to question whether it's me or them?

    Remember, kids. Don't start belittling people if you don't know what a preposition is. It might cause you to rage from cognitive dissonance and ban your fellow TSRians.
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    [QUOTE=Terry Tibbs;64025917]You deserve rudeness in the same way a troll deserves rudeness, something that I'm beginning to suspect you are considering how irrational you are being. You have the right to express your opinion, I have the right to explain why your opinion holds no merit, it's a pretty simple concept.

    Domestic rankings are largely inaccurate and inconsistent, it doesn't take a minute to realise how messed up they are after having a look at them. You're never going to make any reliable conclusion from them, which is why international rankings are the only real thing to go off if anything. Besides, why as an international student would you be going off domestic rankings? That literally makes no sense.


    Do you suffer from short term memory loss? Have a look back at your earlier posts where you **** on the entire university, as if to use your experiences and infer that they must be the same for everyone. I merely provided the Physics dept as an example.

    Stalking? LOL, get a grip, I came across you on that thread and found your post rather contradictory to your argument, hence the suspicion of trollness.

    Honestly, if someone needs to be dealt with rudely it's you. I don't know why you think I'm a troll when I'm merely stating my opinion and sharing my experience of that stupid university.
    If anyone's a troll, I think it's you. I guess you like to pick fights and that too anonymously from behind a computer screen like a coward.

    just look around on TSR alone and you will find millions of threads and posts dissing Manchester, are they all trolls as well? I don't think so. Manchester really isn't as good as people like you and the people running the uni make it out to be, hence why I think it's overrated.

    I hope you can be a bit more liberal and agree to disagree I guess.
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    (Original post by Nameless Ghoul)
    And another one adds me to their ignore list. I am starting to question whether it's me or them?

    Remember, kids. Don't start belittling people if you don't know what a preposition is. It might cause you to rage from cognitive dissonance and ban your fellow TSRians.
    You got me bro, you totally got me.
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    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    You deserve rudeness in the same way a troll deserves rudeness, something that I'm beginning to suspect you are considering how irrational you are being. You have the right to express your opinion, I have the right to explain why your opinion holds no merit, it's a pretty simple concept.

    Domestic rankings are largely inaccurate and inconsistent, it doesn't take a minute to realise how messed up they are after having a look at them. You're never going to make any reliable conclusion from them, which is why international rankings are the only real thing to go off if anything. Besides, why as an international student would you be going off domestic rankings? That literally makes no sense.


    Do you suffer from short term memory loss? Have a look back at your earlier posts where you **** on the entire university, as if to use your experiences and infer that they must be the same for everyone. I merely provided the Physics dept as an example.

    Stalking? LOL, get a grip, I came across you on that thread and found your post rather contradictory to your argument, hence the suspicion of trollness.

    Someone trying to be witty by making quips over a typo, because pointing out typos isn't considered a pastime for special people trying to be smart.
    (Original post by Terry Tibbs)
    You deserve rudeness in the same way a troll deserves rudeness, something that I'm beginning to suspect you are considering how irrational you are being. You have the right to express your opinion, I have the right to explain why your opinion holds no merit, it's a pretty simple concept.

    Domestic rankings are largely inaccurate and inconsistent, it doesn't take a minute to realise how messed up they are after having a look at them. You're never going to make any reliable conclusion from them, which is why international rankings are the only real thing to go off if anything. Besides, why as an international student would you be going off domestic rankings? That literally makes no sense.


    Do you suffer from short term memory loss? Have a look back at your earlier posts where you **** on the entire university, as if to use your experiences and infer that they must be the same for everyone. I merely provided the Physics dept as an example.

    Stalking? LOL, get a grip, I came across you on that thread and found your post rather contradictory to your argument, hence the suspicion of trollness.

    Someone trying to be witty by making quips over a typo, because pointing out typos isn't considered a pastime for special people trying to be smart.
    Honestly, if someone needs to be dealt with rudely it's you. I don't know why you think I'm a troll when I'm merely stating my opinion and sharing my experience of that stupid university.If anyone's a troll, I think it's you. I guess you like to pick fights and that too anonymously from behind a computer screen like a coward.just look around on TSR alone and you will find millions of threads and posts dissing Manchester, are they all trolls as well? I don't think so. Manchester really isn't as good as people like you and the people running the uni make it out to be, hence why I think it's overrated.I hope you can be a bit more liberal and agree to disagree I guess.
 
 
 
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