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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    I asked you a question: Surrey was above Imperial here. Do you think Surrey is a better uni than Imperial?

    Being an alumnus (alum is a chemical compound) means that you studied there. It changes nothing in terms of needing to improve your university's image.

    And I am sure you do - as is evident from your reliance on domestic tables.
    I abbreviated a word, I think it's getting pretty desperate.

    It will serve you well in life and your studies if you make judgements based on empirical evidence. Our friend has already shown you how law firms recruit.

    I think there is no more to be said, wish you good day.

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    (Original post by Newcastle456)
    I abbreviated a word, I think it's getting pretty desperate.

    It will serve you well in life and your studies if you make judgements based on empirical evidence. Our friend has already shown you how law firms recruit.

    I think there is no more to be said, wish you good day.

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    You did not - let's be honest here.

    Well, you can believe whatever you want. If you think Warwick is better than LSE and UCL just because these rankings say so, I refuse to accept you have a single idea of how the market works.

    Peace.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    You did not - let's be honest here.

    Well, you can believe whatever you want. If you think Warwick is better than LSE and UCL just because these rankings say so, I refuse to accept you have a single idea of how the market works.

    Peace.
    Look back to my earlier post about being an Economics alumnus if it makes you happy, the time is on the post.

    That's your choice.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    It's a pretty good guide, and in my opinion an accurate representation..

    From speaking to a fair number of recruiters in the London legal sector, this is how they 'bucketed' out universities for representation and where they recruit/receive most applications from - not in order:

    Bucket 1
    - Cambridge
    - Oxford

    Bucket 2
    - Bristol
    - Durham
    - LSE
    - KCL
    - Manchester (possibly)
    - Nottingham
    - UCL
    - Warwick

    Bucket 3
    - Birmingham
    - Exeter
    - Leeds
    - Sheffield
    - QMUL
    - etc.

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    Hmm, that's pretty contrary to my experience.

    I'd argue it's -

    Bucket 1- Cambridge- Oxford
    Bucket 2- Bristol- Durham- LSE- KCL- Nottingham- UCL
    Bucket 3- Birmingham- Exeter- Manchester- Warwick- QMUL.
    And so on.

    I've been to three insight days thus far, and while they are not openly talking about this, you can see the numbers.

    When I went to Shearman's Head Start, there was just 1 (out of about 35) from Warwick, having studied Economics (in fact, the two trainees that gave us a presentation on a case study were both from Exeter)

    At Burges Salmon, there was none from Warwick.
    Same at a CMS.
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    (Original post by Newcastle456)
    Look back to my earlier post about being an Economics alumnus if it makes you happy, the time is on the post.

    That's your choice.

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    I'm not going to bother - alum is not in any way an abbreviation of the word alumnus (not even the gender agrees).

    But this is off-topic.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    It's a pretty good guide, and in my opinion an accurate representation..

    From speaking to a fair number of recruiters in the London legal sector, this is how they 'bucketed' out universities for representation and where they recruit/receive most applications from - not in order:

    Bucket 1
    - Cambridge
    - Oxford

    Bucket 2
    - Bristol
    - Durham
    - LSE
    - KCL
    - Manchester (possibly)
    - Nottingham
    - UCL
    - Warwick

    Bucket 3
    - Birmingham
    - Exeter
    - Leeds
    - Sheffield
    - QMUL
    - etc.

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    I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here. He's an Exeter student desperate to promote it.

    Exeter is good for law, but being someone who doesn't follow evidence, I'd be pretty mortified if he was my representative.

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    Come on, you know better than this. Warwick's law school is by no means special. Just look at the staff who teach there -- it's very weak. They manage to bring in decent AAA students owning largely to the uni's international IB rep, but that's where the success of the school stems from. A whole range of mathmos and econs no doubt switch to the and this increases overall uptake, but it's pretty daft to suggest its LLB somehow special. It is most definitely not.


    The university is very good; just be happy with that. You don't have to argue that it's elite where it's not.
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    (Original post by Newcastle456)
    I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here. He's an Exeter student desperate to promote it.

    Exeter is good for law, but being someone who doesn't follow evidence, I'd be pretty mortified if he was my representative.

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    He's a Bristol law student with no ties to Exeter. Maybe he's not simply biased but rather someone who knows what they're talking about?
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    Hmm, that's pretty contrary to my experience.

    I'd argue it's -

    Bucket 1- Cambridge- Oxford
    Bucket 2- Bristol- Durham- LSE- KCL- Nottingham- UCL
    Bucket 3- Birmingham- Exeter- Manchester- Warwick- QMUL.
    And so on.

    I've been to three insight days thus far, and while they are not openly talking about this, you can see the numbers.

    When I went to Shearman's Head Start, there was just 1 (out of about 35) from Warwick, having studied Economics (in fact, the two trainees that gave us a presentation on a case study were both from Exeter)

    At Burges Salmon, there was none from Warwick.
    Same at a CMS.
    Ok, so you went to 2 firms and now you've deduced that Warwick is in the tier below?

    I've spoken to recruiters at CC, S&M, LL, FF, Latham, Weil, etc and they all firmly place Warwick in the 2nd bucket. Spent a week at CC for one of their early insight programmes and the ratio of Warwick students resembled the other bucket 2s, not the bucket 3s.

    Even just a cursory glance at the sponsors for Warwick's Law division within WFS, or the on-campus events vs other bucket 3s would point out how ridiculous placing them in the same group would be.

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    (Original post by Newcastle456)
    I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here. He's an Exeter student desperate to promote it.

    Exeter is good for law, but being someone who doesn't follow evidence, I'd be pretty mortified if he was my representative.

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    He's not an Exeter student (Bristol actually), but he does seem to have a vendetta against Warwick..



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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Ok, so you went to 2 firms and now you've deduced that Warwick is in the tier below?

    I've spoken to recruiters at CC, S&M, LL, FF, Latham, Weil, etc and they all firmly place Warwick in the 2nd bucket. Spent a week at CC for one of their early insight programmes and the ratio of Warwick students resembled the other bucket 2s, not the bucket 3s.

    Even just a cursory glance at the sponsors for Warwick's Law division within WFS, or the on-campus events vs other bucket 3s would point out how ridiculous placing them in the same group would be.

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    Every half-decent law society, or society vaguely associated with law, gets money thrown at them by law firms.

    Trust me.
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Ok, so you went to 2 firms and now you've deduced that Warwick is in the tier below?

    I've spoken to recruiters at CC, S&M, LL, FF, Latham, Weil, etc and they all firmly place Warwick in the 2nd bucket. Spent a week at CC for one of their early insight programmes and the ratio of Warwick students resembled the other bucket 2s, not the bucket 3s.

    Even just a cursory glance at the sponsors for Warwick's Law division within WFS, or the on-campus events vs other bucket 3s would point out how ridiculous placing them in the same group would be.

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    Firstly, I've been to three firms PERSONALLY. Who said I haven't spoken to recruiters themselves? Obviously I haven't asked them to give me lists - who would? I spoke to them generally.

    And are you seriously telling me that those firms gave you exact lists of buckets? Each of those firms? C'mon man...

    Erm, how exactly does Warwick have more events than Exeter, to mention 1?
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    (Original post by Candor)
    Massively Overrated:Nottingham
    Underrated: Birmingham
    Dude, Nottingham is literally one of the worse schools possible. Birmingham is better in almost every aspect aside from a few. IMO Birmingham is def a top 10 uni while Notts languishes around 50th place
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    He's not an Exeter student (Bristol actually), but he does seem to have a vendetta against Warwick..



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    Vendetta? Wtf lol.

    You're trying to tell me that Warwick is not elevated to heaven by all Warwick students? Please...
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    (Original post by JohnDoeThanks)
    Dude, Nottingham is literally one of the worse schools possible. Birmingham is better in almost every aspect aside from a few. IMO Birmingham is def a top 10 uni while Notts languishes around 50th place
    Sure sure :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by Newcastle456)
    I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here. He's an Exeter student desperate to promote it.

    Exeter is good for law, but being someone who doesn't follow evidence, I'd be pretty mortified if he was my representative.

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    "Pretty obvious" indeed.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    "Pretty obvious" indeed.
    We're happy to have you, bud.
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    (Original post by *Stefan*)
    Firstly, I've been to three firms PERSONALLY. Who said I haven't spoken to recruiters themselves? Obviously I haven't asked them to give me lists - who would? I spoke to them generally.

    And are you seriously telling me that those firms gave you exact lists of buckets? Each of those firms? C'mon man...

    Erm, how exactly does Warwick have more events than Exeter, to mention 1?
    Yes, because they have dedicated recruiters for each 'set' of universities they focus most of their recruiting efforts on. You forget as well that they have data from previous Vac Scheme/Trainee cohorts to draw from too... All of this can be gathered if you have the right ins/contacts.

    Unfortunately, I'm not going to sit and count every single event from both but it's pretty obvious the magnitude of events is greater at Warwick. They have both a Law society that holds events, and a commercial law society within the finance society that holds their own events too.


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    We're happy to have you, bud.
    Thanks man

    [You're being progressively kinder to me btw ]
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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Yes, because they have dedicated recruiters for each 'set' of universities they focus most of their recruiting efforts on. You forget as well that they have data from previous Vac Scheme/Trainee cohorts to draw from too... All of this can be gathered if you have the right ins/contacts.

    Unfortunately, I'm not going to sit and count every single event from both but it's pretty obvious the magnitude of events is greater at Warwick. They have both a Law society that holds events, and a commercial law society within the finance society that holds their own events too.


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    At Exeter, we have two societies which host events as well—one of which was created only 2 years ago and got Steve Edge to visit just a month ago. You really are showing you're clueless here when it comes to law.
 
 
 

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