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Hi,

I will be starting studying for the BSc in Government and Economics at LSE in the new academic year. I would appreciate some advice from past students on how to choose my options.

Would you advise me to do both GV100 and GV101 in the first year? A few people have suggested that I should do this, but I am very keen to do a history module (HY113 or HY116), in which case I would only do GV101 in the first year.

I would prefer to do GV100 first as it seems to be a harder course judging by the classification statistics, and the first year counts for little overall. However the course tutor said that, if I only do one of the two, I should do GV101 as it is a prerequisite for the second year compulsory course GV225.

The programme page states that I could do an outside option in the second year, but it is referred to an as 'approved outside option'. Is it likely that I would be allowed to do a history course for this? My understanding is that most students choose a second year government option here.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Hi,

I will be starting studying for the BSc in Government and Economics at LSE in the new academic year. I would appreciate some advice from past students on how to choose my options.

Would you advise me to do both GV100 and GV101 in the first year? A few people have suggested that I should do this, but I am very keen to do a history module (HY113 or HY116), in which case I would only do GV101 in the first year.

I would prefer to do GV100 first as it seems to be a harder course judging by the classification statistics, and the first year counts for little overall. However the course tutor said that, if I only do one of the two, I should do GV101 as it is a prerequisite for the second year compulsory course GV225.

The programme page states that I could do an outside option in the second year, but it is referred to an as 'approved outside option'. Is it likely that I would be allowed to do a history course for this? My understanding is that most students choose a second year government option here.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Current Government and Economics student here.

My choices for first year were:

GV101
GV100
EC102
MA100

I would advice doing both GV10s in your first year. Almost all government students do this, and it opens many doors in your second an first years. If you are strong quantitatively, you could consider requesting to do MA100. This is a very difficult module however, so further maths or an A* at A-level is necessary. And you have no choice between EC102 and EC100.

For second year my choices are:

EC201
EC210
GV225
ST102 (outside option)

There must be 100 modules in the 'approved outside module' section. These are the history modules available as your second year option:

HY113 From Empire to Independence: The Extra-European World in the Twentieth Century (1.0)
HY116 International History since 1890 (1.0)
HY203 The Arab-Israeli Conflict: Nationalism, Territory, Religion (1.0)
HY206 The International History of the Cold War, 1945-1989 (1.0)
HY221 The History of Russia, 1682-1825 (1.0)
HY226 The Great War 1914-1918 (1.0)
HY232 War, Genocide and Nation Building. The History of South-Eastern Europe 1914-1990 (1.0)N/A
HY233 Empire and Nation: Britain and India since 1750 (1.0)
HY235 Modernity and the State in East Asia: China, Japan and Korea since 1840 (1.0)
HY238 The Cold War and European Integration, 1947-1992 (1.0)
HY239 Latin America and the United States since 1898 (1.0)
HY240 From Empire to Commonwealth: war, race and imperialism in British History, 1780 (1.0)
HY241 What is History? Methods and Debates (1.0)
HY242 The Soviet Union: Domestic, International and Intellectual History (1.0) HY243 Islamic Empires, 1400-1800 (1.0)
HY311 Limited War During the Cold War Era: The US in Korea (1950-53) and Vietnam (1954 (1.0)N/A
HY315 The European Enlightenment, c.1680-1799 (1.0)
HY319 Napoleon and Europe (1.0)
HY320 The Cold War Endgame (1.0)N/A HY321 The Struggle for the Persian Gulf, 1945-2003 (1.0)
HY322 Nazi Germany and the Second World War: Causes and Course, 1933-1945 (1.0)
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Current Government and Economics student here.

My choices for first year were:

GV101
GV100
EC102
MA100

I would advice doing both GV10s in your first year. Almost all government students do this, and it opens many doors in your second an first years. If you are strong quantitatively, you could consider requesting to do MA100. This is a very difficult module however, so further maths or an A* at A-level is necessary. And you have no choice between EC102 and EC100.

For second year my choices are:

EC201
EC210
GV225
ST102 (outside option)

There must be 100 modules in the 'approved outside module' section. These are the history modules available as your second year option:

HY113 From Empire to Independence: The Extra-European World in the Twentieth Century (1.0)
HY116 International History since 1890 (1.0)
HY203 The Arab-Israeli Conflict: Nationalism, Territory, Religion (1.0)
HY206 The International History of the Cold War, 1945-1989 (1.0)
HY221 The History of Russia, 1682-1825 (1.0)
HY226 The Great War 1914-1918 (1.0)
HY232 War, Genocide and Nation Building. The History of South-Eastern Europe 1914-1990 (1.0)N/A
HY233 Empire and Nation: Britain and India since 1750 (1.0)
HY235 Modernity and the State in East Asia: China, Japan and Korea since 1840 (1.0)
HY238 The Cold War and European Integration, 1947-1992 (1.0)
HY239 Latin America and the United States since 1898 (1.0)
HY240 From Empire to Commonwealth: war, race and imperialism in British History, 1780 (1.0)
HY241 What is History? Methods and Debates (1.0)
HY242 The Soviet Union: Domestic, International and Intellectual History (1.0) HY243 Islamic Empires, 1400-1800 (1.0)
HY311 Limited War During the Cold War Era: The US in Korea (1950-53) and Vietnam (1954 (1.0)N/A
HY315 The European Enlightenment, c.1680-1799 (1.0)
HY319 Napoleon and Europe (1.0)
HY320 The Cold War Endgame (1.0)N/A HY321 The Struggle for the Persian Gulf, 1945-2003 (1.0)
HY322 Nazi Germany and the Second World War: Causes and Course, 1933-1945 (1.0)
Thanks so much for all the info! From what I understand, if I choose to do both GV10s in the first year then I will have a larger choice of options in the second year for the course I have choice over?

You say there are over 100 modules on the approved outside module section. Is there a list of these online that you could direct me to?

I'd also just like to ask your opinions on GV100 and GV101, how are you finding them in terms of content and difficulty?
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Thanks so much for all the info! From what I understand, if I choose to do both GV10s in the first year then I will have a larger choice of options in the second year for the course I have choice over?

You say there are over 100 modules on the approved outside module section. Is there a list of these online that you could direct me to?

I'd also just like to ask your opinions on GV100 and GV101, how are you finding them in terms of content and difficulty?
Yes, if those choices are within the government department.

You can only see this list as a current student choosing you second year options. I could send them to you in a PM if you want.

GV101 is quite easy in theory, the ideas and models used are very interesting and very intuitive. The difficulty is sourcing and evidence, particularly in the exams.

GV100 is much harder to remember and grasp. Although once you break the barrier, its very enjoyable and a lot easier one exams.
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Hi guys, I'm sorry to bother you as this isn't directly relevant but I need some advice and can't find anywhere else to ask this question:

I'm keen on studying govt + econ at LSE.

I got 10 A* at GCSE, 3A at AS (govpol econ geography) and 1B (maths) - I'll be dropping geography and predicted A*AA.

I wondered what you lot think my chances might be of getting an offer?

Thanks very much in advance guys.
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(Original post by Southernram1774)
Hi guys, I'm sorry to bother you as this isn't directly relevant but I need some advice and can't find anywhere else to ask this question:

I'm keen on studying govt + econ at LSE.

I got 10 A* at GCSE, 3A at AS (govpol econ geography) and 1B (maths) - I'll be dropping geography and predicted A*AA.

I wondered what you lot think my chances might be of getting an offer?

Thanks very much in advance guys.
Almost certain, if you have a good personal statement.
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don't give people hope BoE. Scarce resources.
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