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Have you watched video footage of real killings, for example showing the killing of prisoners held by ISIS, or the killing of Saddam Hussein, or the killing of anyone else?
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I've watched Saddam being hung, as well as protesters being shot in Syria and Bahrain. Would't recommend it to anyone.

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seen them, made them. ooopsie!

from my experience: if you wish to test your home video sound system, or your phone do not use an ISIS decapitation video as a sample.
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I was once shown one by a work college he didn't explain what it was

If I close my eyes I can still see the man struggling to breath as his throat was cut.

NEVER again

I do think it should be a criminal offense to intentionally watch these
I agree with you. I think it should be a criminal offence to distribute them, and also to possess them knowingly, just as it is with child pornography. They are what used to be called "snuff movies". Several years ago, before Youtube, there was some public discussion as to whether such films existed or whether their existence was imaginary. It was possible to have that discussion because most people hadn't seen one and the criminals involved in making them weren't going to admit it. Now they are mainstream. It doesn't stop being a snuff movie just because the newspapers tell you about it and you can get it sent to you along an internet connection provided by Vodafone or the Post Office without either you or them being raided by the police. What really scares me is there's so little debate about whether that's a good situation. I mean is anyone going to post to this thread, even, to say that it's good, or that it's the "price of freedom"? It's horrendous, is what it is.
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(Original post by BaconandSauce)
I was once shown one by a work college he didn't explain what it was

If I close my eyes I can still see the man struggling to breath as his throat was cut.

NEVER again

I do think it should be a criminal offense to intentionally watch these
What. Why on earth should it be illegal to watch them? (Im talking videos of bad things, people dying, gore etc.. not Terrorist propaganda videos)
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Yeah I have seen quite few, mainly in gif or webm form. Although some on liveleak.

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Yes I watched some ISIS beheadings and slaughter houses.

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What. Why on earth should it be illegal to watch them? (Im talking videos of bad things, people dying, gore etc.. not Terrorist propaganda videos)
IMO It's the same as watching snuff movies (do remember the OP used the term 'Killings' and this is relevant to the context of my opinion)

The people being murdered do have rights even if the murderer is denying them and one of these rights is not having their murder being turned into entertainment for sickos.
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Watching islamic terrorists or armed robbers getting killed is great fun.
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(Original post by lopterton)
I agree with you. I think it should be a criminal offence to distribute them, and also to possess them knowingly, just as it is with child pornography. They are what used to be called "snuff movies". Several years ago, before Youtube, there was some public discussion as to whether such films existed or whether their existence was imaginary. It was possible to have that discussion because most people hadn't seen one and the criminals involved in making them weren't going to admit it. Now they are mainstream. It doesn't stop being a snuff movie just because the newspapers tell you about it and you can get it sent to you along an internet connection provided by Vodafone or the Post Office without either you or them being raided by the police. What really scares me is there's so little debate about whether that's a good situation. I mean is anyone going to post to this thread, even, to say that it's good, or that it's the "price of freedom"? It's horrendous, is what it is.
Completely agree.
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Watching islamic terrorists or armed robbers getting killed is great fun.
You enjoy watching (certain) people get killed?
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(Original post by BaconandSauce)
IMO It's the same as watching snuff movies (do remember the OP used the term 'Killings' and this is relevant to the context of my opinion)

The people being murdered do have rights even if the murderer is denying them and one of these rights is not having their murder being turned into entertainment for sickos.
I think its extremely important for people to have the choice as to whether they wish to expose themselves to the grim reality of man and the fragility of life. I have found unique insights by visiting gore sights and independent sites of which i would never have been able to comprehend through censored mainstream media.

Im not talking about viewing images which are purposely made for sickos to watch, more general uncensored images from car accidents, war zones etc
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(Original post by Betelgeuse-)
I think its extremely important for people to have the choice as to whether they wish to expose themselves to the grim reality of man and the fragility of life. I have found unique insights by visiting gore sights and independent sites of which i would never have been able to comprehend through censored mainstream media.

Im not talking about viewing images which are purposely made for sickos to watch, more general uncensored images from car accidents, war zones etc
Then we are talking at cross purposes I am specificity talking about footage of people being killed (not those who die in accidents)

As I say it is a Human right that is being abused and those watching should be treated accordingly.
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Jordanian pilot burnt in a cage.
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(Original post by BaconandSauce)
Then we are talking at cross purposes I am specificity talking about footage of people being killed (not those who die in accidents)

As I say it is a Human right that is being abused and those watching should be treated accordingly.
What about people killed in war/ conflict? Not prisoners, on the battlefield?
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(Original post by BaconandSauce)
Then we are talking at cross purposes I am specificity talking about footage of people being killed (not those who die in accidents)

As I say it is a Human right that is being abused and those watching should be treated accordingly.
What about people being killed in self defence?

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i watched assassination of JFK, 9/11 jumpers, the elevator/ escalator accidents, CCTV footage of robberies and killings, car crashes, all those "TOP 10 MURDERERS" videos with graphic content, all those unsolved mysteries, loads of stuff :dontknow:

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maybe that's why I'm ****ed up :lol:
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What about people killed in war/ conflict? Not prisoners, on the battlefield?
Tricky but I believe it would be against the Geneva convention as it regards the treatment of armed combatants but as I say this isn't relevant to my opinion that watching people being murdered should be a criminal offense

(but as we know the Geneva convention was drafted before YouTube )
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What about people being killed in self defence?

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Same thing, even criminals have human rights (it's supposed to be what makes us better then 'them'.
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Yes and while they're pretty disgusting and definitely not something I'd really want to watch again, I wouldn't go as far as to say it should be illegal.
I don't think it's comparable to snuff films tbh.
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