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Alan Smithee

Anyone sitting the examinations for a fellowship?

Reply 1

hobnob

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Pernell Whitaker

Anyone sitting the examinations for a fellowship?

Isn't it a bit too early for people to know? :confused:

Most haven't even finished finals yet.

Reply 2

the_alba

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Pernell Whitaker

Anyone sitting the examinations for a fellowship?

Are you?

Reply 3

Drogue

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I've always been tempted, but with a job lined up and being so happy to finish finals, I very much doubt it.

Reply 4

Crazy Mongoose

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Drogue

I've always been tempted, but with a job lined up and being so happy to finish finals, I very much doubt it.

As I recall the advert, though, you can take the prize fellowship and head off into somewhere else, like law or politics- you don't have to stay and teach or work in Oxford, although it is true most do.

Reply 5

WokSz

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What exactly is a fellowship?

Reply 6

thomasjtl

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the fellowship is the governing body of the college, normally made up of some of the college tutors and people like the bursar. All souls is special in that it doesn't take any students, and all its members are fellows. Every year they award prize fellowships to the university's top finalists, through a process of exams, interviews, and dinners- those sucessful get a ten year appointment to the fellowship with stipend and accomodation provided if they want it to do whatever they want- most do D.Phils then become academics, but there's no restriction.

At a minimum, it's probably the most prestigious academic award an undergraduate can be given. Beyond that, it solves all your funding problems for pg. study and puts you in a very good position for getting academic positions after your tenure if you wanna follow that route.

Reply 7

thomasjtl

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http://www.all-souls.ox.ac.uk/fellows/prize.php
Their exams are kinda worrying.

Reply 8

the_alba

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It's the one thing that makes me regret not going to Oxford as an undergrad. Somehow I graduated with one of the highest firsts in the country and could really have done with that fellowship... goddamn. Oh well, there are postdoc ones too.

Reply 9

Alan Smithee

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the_alba

It's the one thing that makes me regret not going to Oxford as an undergrad. Somehow I graduated with one of the highest firsts in the country and could really have done with that fellowship... goddamn. Oh well, there are postdoc ones too.

You qualify to sit the exams, don't you?

Reply 10

Alan Smithee

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thomasjtl

http://www.all-souls.ox.ac.uk/fellows/prize.php
Their exams are kinda worrying.

I think they're brilliant. They separate the men from the boys. I rate any scientist/non-arts student that can win a fellowship, too.

I love one of the questions regarding Eminem and Elvis: "Is Eminem the new Elvis Presley?"

It's making obvious reference to the use of "black" music by white artists to secure fame, fortune etc.

Reply 11

thomasjtl

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Prize Fellowships are open to... graduate students within seven terms of first registering for a higher degree at the University.

(and some extra characters 'cos it's complaining my post is too short)

Reply 12

thomasjtl

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oh they're brilliant questions, i just wouldn't want to have to tackle them in an exam, that's all. But there again, it's not open to scientists, so it doesn't matter much.

Reply 13

Alan Smithee

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thomasjtl

oh they're brilliant questions, i just wouldn't want to have to tackle them in an exam, that's all. But there again, it's not open to scientists, so it doesn't matter much.

It's open to Mathematicians, is it not?

I say this because I saw Marcus du Sautoy as a Quondam (former) fellow. Of course, he may not have been a "Prize Fellow".

Reply 14

thomasjtl

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Sautoy was presumably not a prize fellow. Well, he could in theory have gotten a prize fellowship, but he'd still have to have passed the exam in either "law, history, politics, philosophy, economics, classics, [or] English literature."

Reply 15

the_alba

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Pernell Whitaker

You qualify to sit the exams, don't you?

I thought you had to have been an undergrad at Oxford to qualify for the type of fellowship you mean. There are postdoc ones I could get, but that's based on PhD research, not on interviews and exams. And they're generally not as jammy as the ones for Oxford undergrads,

Reply 16

Turdburger

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I've always been tempted, but with a job lined up and being so happy to finish finals, I very much doubt it.

It would be an experience at least. And you get cash even if you dont choose to become an academic.

Reply 17

thomasjtl

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I thought you had to have been an undergrad at Oxford to qualify for the type of fellowship you mean. There are postdoc ones I could get, but that's based on PhD research, not on interviews and exams. And they're generally not as jammy as the ones for Oxford undergrads,
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check out the link i posted, the prize fellowships are open to current graduate students as well, so long as you didn't matriculate more than seven terms ago.

Reply 18

Drogue

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thomasjtl

the fellowship is the governing body of the college, normally made up of some of the college tutors and people like the bursar. All souls is special in that it doesn't take any students, and all its members are fellows. Every year they award prize fellowships to the university's top finalists, through a process of exams, interviews, and dinners- those sucessful get a ten year appointment to the fellowship with stipend and accomodation provided if they want it to do whatever they want- most do D.Phils then become academics, but there's no restriction.
I thought it was 7 years?

Having looked at the exams, I'm sorely tempted. The economics ones are interesting questions, the general ones have enough choice that there's plenty I'm interested in, and I love the one-word essay titles at the end. Especially "Water". I'd love to see what I'd come up with being so free to take an angle discuss it. If I get a first, I may well go for it. It means I can get to do a masters without having to commit to the PhD after.

Reply 19

thomasjtl

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