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V963 - Sex Discrimination Prevention Bill 2016 watch

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    V963 - Sex Discrimination Prevention Bill 2016, TSR UKIP
    Sex Discrimination Prevention Bill 2016

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    BILL
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    Stop political parties from using sex discrimination to select candidates.

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

    1 Repeals

    Part 7, Section 104 'Special Provision for Political Parties' of the Equality Act 2010 is hereby repealed.

    2 Commencement, short title and extent

    (1) This Act shall come into force immediately following Royal Assent
    (2) This Act may be cited as the Equality Act Part 7 Section 104 (Repeal) Act 2016.

    Notes

    Part 7, Section 104 'Special Provision for Political Parties' of the Equality Act 2010 gives political parties special provision to use the sex of an individual when choosing a candidate to stand for a position in office. This bill repeals the relevant section of the Equality Act 2010 to stop political parties from using sex discrimination; sex should not be a barrier to deciding who can, or cannot stand for election.


    This bill is the follow-up bill of the bill to end sex discrimination in politics; this bill repeals the clause in the Equality Act 2010 to apply it to the whole of the country.
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    Nay, Labour use all-women and all-men shortlists in Wales in order to ensure a 50-50 split in the Assembly, which was achieved for the first time in any legislature in 2003.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Nay, Labour use all-women and all-men shortlists in Wales in order to ensure a 50-50 split in the Assembly, which was achieved for the first time in any legislature in 2003.
    Confirmed: the prime minister endorses discrimination

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Confirmed: the prime minister endorses discrimination
    Is it discrimination when a quota for both genders is imposed though?
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Is it discrimination when a quota for both genders is imposed though?
    If there were 100 seats where 75 very excellent women applied to be candidates with the rest of the female candidates being average, and 50 male candidates with 25 of those being excellent but the rest average, the ideal f Parliament would have the 75 excellent females with the 25 excellent males, but imposing a 50% quota gives a Parliament of 50 excellent females, 25 excellent males, and 25 average males; Parliament has fewer excellent people, and 25 excellent women have lost out because they were women.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Is it discrimination when a quota for both genders is imposed though?
    Yes, it's still potential saying "we know you're better, but you aren't x so the door's there"

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Yes, it's still potential saying "we know you're better, but you aren't x so the door's there"
    With pairing it doesn't really work like that though. You pair off two nearby constituencies, and all the women wanting to stand stand in the seat with the all-women shortlist and all the men who want to stand stand in the seat with the all-men shortlist.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    With pairing it doesn't really work like that though. You pair off two nearby constituencies, and all the women wanting to stand stand in the seat with the all-women shortlist and all the men who want to stand stand in the seat with the all-men shortlist.
    Except it still works like that. To take it to the extreme, suppose you had 100 excellent male candidates and 1 incompetent female, that female would get it despite being the worst of the hundred due to an arbitrary attribute, pairings don't change that.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Except it still works like that. To take it to the extreme, suppose you had 100 excellent male candidates and 1 incompetent female, that female would get it despite being the worst of the hundred due to an arbitrary attribute, pairings don't change that.
    Except that sort of situation is all but impossible.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    Except that sort of situation is all but impossible.
    That specifically is, but it's to demonstrate the point

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    That specifically is, but it's to demonstrate the point
    The theory behind the pairing is that talent ought to be split 50:50. If that isn't the case then the question needs to be asked as to why.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    The theory behind the pairing is that talent ought to be split 50:50. If that isn't the case then the question needs to be asked as to why.
    Because women don't want to go into politics as much as men maybe?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Because women don't want to go into politics as much as men maybe?
    So the question needs to be asked why.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    So the question needs to be asked why.
    Why? So they don't, end of story. Are you also so eagerly asking why not as many men want to do ballet or become primary school teachers?!
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    So the question needs to be asked why.
    And that question should be resolved rather than forcing the less appropriate in.

    I can think of several potential reasons

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    toronto353 accidentally voted nay can you change me to an aye please.
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    (Original post by Wellzi)
    toronto353 accidentally voted nay can you change me to an aye please.
    I've altered your vote as requested.
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    Abstain: 4

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