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    Who seen this?
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122946

    Whats your views on it? Almost to 100,000 and people protesting.
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    The issue with the Fixed Terms Parliaments Act of 2011 [I think thats what its called] means a General election can only happen if a vote of no confidence occurs in westminster and passes; which is highly unlikely!
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Who seen this?
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122946

    Whats your views on it? Almost to 100,000 and people protesting.
    This is an old petition from last August.

    DC shouldn't resign. He hasn't done anything illegal as of yet, lets just wait and see until he publishes his tax returns.

    There's this convention called individual ministerial responsibility that each minister is responsible for their department, so a minister should resign if the have done something wrong within their department. But more recently it can be because of the failures of other people and personal misconduct. However it's important to note that this is only a convention and so isn't 'set in stone'. Cameron could remain PM, even if the tax returns highlight misconduct, he would just have to survive a VONC which looks dubious at the moment with the pro-EU leaflet fiasco and the large eurosceptic wing of the Tory party.
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    (Original post by jamestg)
    This is an old petition from last August.

    DC shouldn't resign. He hasn't done anything illegal as of yet, lets just wait and see until he publishes his tax returns.

    There's this convention called individual ministerial responsibility that each minister is responsible for their department, so a minister should resign if the have done something wrong within their department. But more recently it can be because of the failures of other people and personal misconduct. However it's important to note that this is only a convention and so isn't 'set in stone'. Cameron could remain PM, even if the tax returns highlight misconduct, he would just have to survive a VONC which looks dubious at the moment with the pro-EU leaflet fiasco and the large eurosceptic wing of the Tory party.
    People believed SNP-Labour and Labour caused the global crisis. I'm sure labour has the advantage in the next general election and local.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    People believed SNP-Labour and Labour caused the global crisis. I'm sure labour has the advantage in the next general election and local.
    Local yes. GE no.

    I doubt Labour would gain a majority at a GE anytime soon. The gains they would need to make are HUGE.

    It would depend on the Tory leader. Osbourne? Hung parliament. Boris? Slim majority.
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    Who seen this?
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/122946

    Whats your views on it? Almost to 100,000 and people protesting.
    Isn't a party manifesto a bit like a holiday brochure? It promises paradise, but when you get there, it is a rat infested building site, with diarrhoea inducing food from a no-standards canteen.

    It surely shouldn't come as a surprise that politicians will do and say anything for your vote and then do an say anything to help themselves / their mates?
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Isn't a party manifesto a bit like a holiday brochure? It promises paradise, but when you get there, it is a rat infested building site, with diarrhoea inducing food from a no-standards canteen.

    It surely shouldn't come as a surprise that politicians will do and say anything for your vote and then do an say anything to help themselves / their mates?
    Our views usually match but i strongly disagree with that.

    Unfortunately most of this cynicism occurred from the coalition, where despite delivering 75% of their manifesto the general view of the lib dems was that they failed utterly because to deliver on one key commitment.

    That said it's probably the case for anti establishment parties such as UKIP and The Greens. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. That said, gradual progressive change is possible and overall I think our governments deliver what they set out to.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Our views usually match but i strongly disagree with that.

    Unfortunately most of this cynicism occurred from the coalition, where despite delivering 75% of their manifesto the general view of the lib dems was that they failed utterly because to deliver on one key commitment.
    Agreed wholeheartedly. But there is a huge difference between not doing what you set out to do and doing something you never even mentioned.

    There is something of the Dr Evil Mwahh ha ha ha about the way the government have started coming up with policies out of the blue, like making all schools academies for example. I just hope a bit more sh1t starts hitting the fan so that they quietly bury the idea, a bit like they have with regard to privatising the NHS. Notice how that has gone very quiet recently? Turns out it didn't work after all!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ycr55
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Agreed wholeheartedly. But there is a huge difference between not doing what you set out to do and doing something you never even mentioned.

    There is something of the Dr Evil Mwahh ha ha ha about the way the government have started coming up with policies out of the blue, like making all schools academies for example. I just hope a bit more sh1t starts hitting the fan so that they quietly bury the idea, a bit like they have with regard to privatising the NHS. Notice how that has gone very quiet recently? Turns out it didn't work after all!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06ycr55
    That's a different argument.


    But yeah.im pretty sure when they do stuff like that they expect it to fail and hope it will bury something- in this case osbornes Budget failings. Osborne is a very canny political operator but can be a but crude sometimes.

    The Tories wouldnt actually sell off the nhs apart from a fringe bunch of loonies. It's kinda the same situation with Trident and labour (apart from labour have gone ahead and elected someone who openly wants it scrapped)

    Most NHS privatisation occurred under Andy Burnham. a lot of nhs privatising is bad but it also does some good in some ways- there's a hell of a lot of waste in the NHS.
 
 
 
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