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V961 - Agriculture and Fisheries Bill 2016, TSR Conservative and Unionist Party
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Provide greater incentives and future success for the agriculture and fishing industries.


BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1 Corporation Tax abolition
Businesses in the Agriculture, Forestry and fishing sector are hereby exempt from paying corporation tax.

2 Common Fisheries and Agricultural Policy withdrawal
(1) From 1st April 2019 the UK will withdraw from the Common Fisheries Policy
(2) From 1st April 2019 the UK will withdraw from the Common Agricultural Policy
(3) From April 1st 2019 the UK will deduct it’s contribution to CAP from it’s wider commitment to the EU budget

3 Fish farming
(1) From 1st April 2019 fishing for commercial purposes will be prohibited within English waters
(2) From 1st April 2019 only fish produced in licensed fish farms will be available for commercial purposes

4 Society of land development and rural settlement (SLDRS)
(1) The SLDRS will regulate the protection, sale and purchase of agricultural land in addition to overseeing a subsidiary named the Young Farmers Instillation (YFL)
(2) The Young Farmers Instillation will provide loans to young farmers with the goal of aiding start-ups for the first three years of trading
(i) Government will guarantee £0.1bn of loans which will be distributed in co-ordination with the SLDRS and participating banks
(ii) The purpose of theses loans are to provide aid for agricultural start-ups for the first three years of trading and to allow existing farmers to purchase more agricultural land
(iii) The YFI will oversee the creation of 1000 aggriculture based apprentiships
(3) The SLDRS will be overseen by the department of Energy, Environment, Food, Rural Affairs and Climate Change

5 Society of English fisheries (SEF)
(1) The SEF will regulate the protection, sale and purchase of fish farms in addition to overseeing a subsidiary named the Young Fisheries Instillation (YFI)
(2) The Young Fisheries Instillation will provide loans to young fishermen with the goal of aiding start-ups for the first three years of trading
(i) Government will guarantee £0.1bn of loans which will be distributed in co-ordination with the SEF and participating banks
(ii) The purpose of theses loans are to provide aid for Fishery start-ups for the first three years of trading and to allow existing fishermen to purchase more coastal waters suitable for fish farms
(iii) The YFI will oversee the creation of 1000 fishing based apprenticeships
(3) The SEF will be overseen by the department of Energy, Environment, Food, Rural Affairs and Climate Change
(4) SEF will ensure that fish farms adhere to all existing regulation surrounding the ethical treatment and standards of fish within the aforementioned fish farms

6 Commencement, extent and short title
(1) This Act may be cited as the Agriculture and Fishing Act 2016.
(2) This Act extends to England and Wales.
(3) This Act comes into force on 1st April 2019.

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Withdrawal from Common Fisheries Policy

As a result of abiding by the Common Fisheries Policy the UK fishing industry has been decimated due to other EU nations being able to fish on an industrial scale within UK waters. This act returns control of UK waters back to it's constituent nations. Doing so will better protect jobs in the UK fishing industry.

Withdrawal from Common Agricultural Policy
As a result of abiding by the Common Agricultural Policy the UK makes a direct contribution of around £3.3bn to the CAP budget each year. This policy has several harmful effects in terms of distorting market prices by means of subsidy, encouraging surplus production, providing disincentives to take measures to improve efficiency, high levels of wastage and inefficient capital allocation (farmers contribute less than 2% of GDP but receive several billion in subsidies). CAP is one of the largest subsidy programmes on the planet.

http://cep.rhul.ac.uk/cep-blog/2013/...-common-a.html
http://www.debatingeurope.eu/focus/a.../#.VvFtnfmLSUl

Fish Farming
As a result of industrial trawling post war UK fish stocks have declined by a significant amount despite the issue being known for decades. The University of York and the Marine Conservation Society has found that the availability of bottom-living fish has since fallen by 94%. For some species the drop has been all the more remarkable as evidenced by this extract from a Guardian Article below..

"The crash has been huge for some species. From 1889 to 2007, the LPUP declined 500 times for halibut, more than 100 times for haddock, and more than 20 times for plaice, wolffish, hake and ling. Cod had declined by 87%, the study, published by the online science journal Nature Communications, found."

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...cks-uk-decline

That the peak of UK fishing hauls was in 1938 despite the advances in technology allowing larger range and potential catches tells us that the UK must restrict fishing in its waters, this bill will do that and generate jobs in the UK fishing industry.

Society of Land Development and Rural Settlement (SLDRS)
A new governing body for the protection of agricultural land, purchase and sale of agricultural land, informing people on how to get into the business, will run the Young Farmers Installation (see below). They will also offer grants and loans at low rates to those wishing to purchase more agricultural land or for those wishing to get into the industry

It's remit will ensure that the most fertile agricultural land is not spoiled or sold for non-agricultural needs.

Young Farmers Installation (YFI)
This will be about bringing more young people into the world of farming, it will make provision for vocational routes. The YFI will not just try and bring in more young people but when it does it will give grants and loans to them at low rates to help them get off the ground.

Society of English Fisheries (SEF)
A new governing body for the protection, purchase and sale of of coastline suitable for fish farms, informing people on how to get into the business, will run the Young Fisheries Installation (see below). They will also offer grants and loans at low rates to those wishing to purchase more coastline for fish farming or for those wishing to get into the industry.
It's remit will ensure that the best locations suitable for industrial fish farming are not spoiled or sold for non-fishing needs.

Young Fisheries Installation (YFI)
This will be about bringing more young people into the world of fishing, it will make provision for vocational routes. The YFI will not just try and bring in more young people but when it does it will give grants and loans to them at low rates to help them get off the ground.

Corporation Tax
A combination of the low rate of corporation tax and deductables means that revenue from corporation tax receipts in the Aggriculture, Forestry and Fishing industries amounts to just £0.3bn. It is a needless hindrance.

Costing

Abolition of UK contribution to CAP: +£3.3bn

Corporation Tax abolition: -£0.3bn
Unfunded liabilities in the form of loans: -£0.2bn

Cost to treasury: +£3bn

*This bill is an amended and combined version of two bills set before the second Great Repeal. Their primary authors were Conservative in both instances and thus approval was not sought by other parties however some credit must be given to both TSR Ukip and the TSR Liberal parties.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2573703
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2825045

Changes for Vote
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Date of enactment changed in sections 2 and 3. All now set at 1st April 2019.
Section 6 abolished and replaced by section 7 to reflect no devolution..
Section 7.2 (now 6.2) amended to reflect the lack of section 6..
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Before I vote, are we actually allowed to stop putting money into CAP? Life_peer toronto353
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Before I vote, are we actually allowed to stop putting money into CAP? Life_peer toronto353
Britain does not contribute directly to the CAP, Britain pays the EU who spends part of the EU's total budget on the CAP, the rebate is then handed back to Britain. If Britain wants to stop contributing to the CAP there will need to be renegotiation to secure a bigger rebate, or the agreement of the EU to cut CAP funding.
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Britain does not contribute directly to the CAP, Britain pays the EU who then spend part of the EU's total budget on the CAP, the rebate is then handed back to Britain. If Britain wants to stop contributing to the CAP there will need to be renegotiation to secure a bigger rebate, or the agreement of the EU to cut CAP funding.
How would this work on TSR though? Do we assume we have negotiated it successfully? Do we involve the MEU (which isn't even off the ground yet)?
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Canon amendment.

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Canon amendment.

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I repeat from the debate - canon does not mean that we are free to disregard the political implications of this, it merely asserts MHoC's technical sovereignty over the EU.
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I repeat from the debate - canon does not mean that we are free to disregard the political implications of this, it merely asserts MHoC's technical sovereignty over the EU.
You do realise that absolutely everything we do ignores political implications, and I'll remember this next time the socialists try to impose legislation on Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland on devolved matters.

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I thank the Kippers and Liberals who have not voted against this bill and subject to one or two votes still to be declared, i'm glad to see that this bill has passed.
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I thank the Kippers and Liberals who have not voted against this bill and subject to one or two votes still to be declared, i'm glad to see that this bill has passed.
I'm not.
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I thank the Kippers and Liberals who have not voted against this bill and subject to one or two votes still to be declared, i'm glad to see that this bill has passed.
The bill extends to England, and Wales but commercial fishing is stopped in English waters, but not Welsh water, is there a reason for that?
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The bill extends to England, and Wales but commercial fishing is stopped in English waters, but not Welsh water, is there a reason for that?
I'll amend 3.1 to United Kingdom once the new term begins, it's because we abolished section 6 but should have changed that too.
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You do realise that absolutely everything we do ignores political implications, and I'll remember this next time the socialists try to impose legislation on Scotland, Wales, or Northern Ireland on devolved matters.

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Devolved matters are treated differently by canon: we act AS the devolved bodies rather than asserting supremacy.

edit: for what it's worth I am opposed to the CAP but it should be for the MEU to deal with
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Devolved matters are treated differently by canon: we act AS the devolved bodies rather than asserting supremacy.

edit: for what it's worth I am opposed to the CAP but it should be for the MEU to deal with
What MEU lol

And I reckon such a negotiation would pass with ease given the biases present, it's not going to model results at all well because almost everybody will be dealing from a British perspective so we won't have to worry about the French farmers losing their subsidy from us

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What MEU lol

And I reckon such a negotiation would pass with ease given the biases present, it's not going to model results at all well because almost everybody will be dealing from a British perspective so we won't have to worry about the French farmers losing their subsidy from us

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It might pass with ease. That's not relevant to the question of who should pass it.
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It might pass with ease. That's not relevant to the question of who should pass it.
And if we are acting as the bodies then should this not be regarded as acting as the EU allowing this change as well as us accepting it?

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And if we are acting as the bodies then should this not be regarded as acting as the EU allowing this change as well as us accepting it?

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The thing is we don't act as the EU. Read as the GD. It states we act AS the devolved bodies but NOT the EU, which it merely claims we have supremacy over. If a distinction were not intended, differential wording wouldn't be used.
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The thing is we don't act as the EU. Read as the GD. It states we act AS the devolved bodies but NOT the EU, which it merely claims we have supremacy over. If a distinction were not intended, differential wording wouldn't be used.
And if we have supremacy over then we can say "oi, we're not doing this anymore"

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And if we have supremacy over then we can say "oi, we're not doing this anymore"

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We have supremacy over the EU IRL. It doesn't mean we can ignore the political implications.
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We have supremacy over the EU IRL. It doesn't mean we can ignore the political implications.
Except we do that on almost every bill, are you also proposing we skip the election because it won't consider political implications, I.e.1997 like swing to the Tories and UKIP from labour and the liberals

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