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Reply 1
Nope, what does he lecture on?
Reply 2
Is he the Engineering one who failed everyone on his module because he is retiring and wanted to prove the point that students aren't as good? If so I thought the Engineering department were looking to overturn it.
Reply 3
Les Mustoe (teaches maths to the engineers) has allegedly done that and is retiring. Either that or this year's first and second years are extremely thick.

Edit: There's nobody in the uni staff or student address book with the surname Foot....
Reply 4
He lectures Management, and yes he is retiring and it seems wants to prove the point that students aren't as good, he has other motives too.

He is a visiting lecturer from Aston University, I wander why the University cannot use its own management lecturers. It seems that a lot of "oldies" are failing students purely out of hate for those who are 40+ years younger.

Those on my course took Logistics and Management with him. Unfortunately those two modules are worth 3 credits. So he alone can make a student fail the year even if they average 1st in everything else.

University Management: If you are reading this, waive his modules for those of us doing well in everything else. If I fail this year because of 1 hateful man, I will go to the press.
well TBH I highly doubt anyone who could do something about it will be spending their time on TSR. If you think it's a real problem you'd probably be better spending your time going to your department committee, union council or personal tutor and telling them about the situation to try and get something done instead of posting on a students forum.
Reply 6
The course committee asked him for some notes. He got away with:
"I'm an old man, you know what we're like with computers. Anyways if you can get the notes on the LEARN server nobody will attend my lectures".
The committee just laughed - USELESS.

I spoke to my tutor who reffered me to the head of my department. He just seemed happy to accept that 25% of those on our course failed his modules. He had the attitude: 'If I Nigel thinks he's right, he is right. He buys me beers on a friday night and thats quite alright'.

I get the impression they couldn't care less, my colleagues have just resigned to failure and I feel like Rambo the only one willing to fight for justice. I don't want to look like a rebel though.
I want a remark from a Loughborough management lecturer and they shouldn't be told the marks previously given.
I'd bet top dollar I would gain at least 15%.
Well the deparment committee have just been re-elected and I can guarantee you they won't have just laughed at such a comment anyway If you go through the union you won't look like a rebel because they don't have to give your name or have you mentioned at all so you shouldn't be worried about it affecting your grades etc.

A lecturer isn't going to say that he thinks it's ok and mention that he gets bought pints etc, that's not their job. Just go to the union or your new department committee.
Reply 8
25% failed? That's not an exceptionally high number to be honest.
Reply 9
Yeah, we've had a much higher failure rate for a CompSci module because the lecturer was ****. Fortunately the department got rid of him as a result... and now the module is taken solely by the coolest lecturer ever :biggrin:
Reply 10
loopymeg
Yeah, we've had a much higher failure rate for a CompSci module because the lecturer was ****. Fortunately the department got rid of him as a result... and now the module is taken solely by the coolest lecturer ever :biggrin:


who was that? If you're referring to Lawson he was great.. and replacing him with Stone was a monotonally bad decision! And didn't Lawson leave because he was sleeping with the secretary?
Reply 11
Pinus Pinea
The course committee asked him for some notes. He got away with:
"I'm an old man, you know what we're like with computers. Anyways if you can get the notes on the LEARN server nobody will attend my lectures".
The committee just laughed - USELESS.


Some of our best lecturers don't give out handouts or lecture notes - you just have to copy down what they write and tell you. It's a much easier way to learn stuff than reading through a pile of powerpoint slides at the end of the year. The modules I've done well in are ones where I've made all my own notes.

I think in 4 years we've only had 3 or 4 modules where the handouts have been put on the learn server (or equivalent) but as the lecturers talk about other things in the lectures as well the handouts on their own are pretty useless.

Montrose

25% failed? That's not an exceptionally high number to be honest.

No it isn't. In the first year we went from 100 on the BEng and MEng down to about 60-70. The MEng started off with about 50 and is now down to 25 in the final year.

If there really is a problem and a higher than normal people fail the module then the department will probably do something about it - it looks bad on them if 90% of the course fail the first year all due to a single module.
Reply 12
Agreed Thistle. To be honest, and this will sound harsh, but if you're one of the 25%, you need to ask what the 75% are doing and you're not, rather than blaming it all on the lecturer.
Reply 13
Pinus Pinea
The course committee asked him for some notes. He got away with:
"I'm an old man, you know what we're like with computers. Anyways if you can get the notes on the LEARN server nobody will attend my lectures".
The committee just laughed - USELESS.


None of our lecturers put their notes on Learn. Some of them produce notes that you can buy from reception, and some expect you to wrote notes in lectures. Precisely for the reason that they want students to attend lectures, because even the written notes we can buy will quite often have sections missing so you have to turn up.

Pinus Pinea

I spoke to my tutor who reffered me to the head of my department. He just seemed happy to accept that 25% of those on our course failed his modules. He had the attitude: 'If I Nigel thinks he's right, he is right. He buys me beers on a friday night and thats quite alright'.


If he actually said that then I suggest you look up what the policy for filing official complaints. Should be in your department handbook or somewhere online. If not, and to be honest I doubt that's what was said, then you really shouldn't be posting things like that.

Pinus Pinea

I get the impression they couldn't care less, my colleagues have just resigned to failure and I feel like Rambo the only one willing to fight for justice. I don't want to look like a rebel though.
I want a remark from a Loughborough management lecturer and they shouldn't be told the marks previously given.
I'd bet top dollar I would gain at least 15%.


Again, find out the official procedure for that. I know of someone on my course who had an exam script re-marked because he wasn't happy about it and went up a grade. Another time one of our lecturers tried to mark us all down 20% because he made our coursework too easy. We complained, and he wasn't allowed to do it. You need to do things the right way.
thistle
Les Mustoe (teaches maths to the engineers) has allegedly done that and is retiring. Either that or this year's first and second years are extremely thick.


Mustoe is a legend, and he's not retiring, just teaching one class a week from next year... something like that!

Does sound like something he'd do though! Loads of people failed on the foundation maths even though it was suppose to be of same standard as A Level which many people had an A in! :s-smilie:

And the whole notes thing, many people don't but them on the Learn server, for the reason mentioned - people won't turn up otherwise!! So that really can't be used as an argument... unless he said he'll put something up then didn't

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Reply 15
EarlFuzz
who was that? If you're referring to Lawson he was great.. and replacing him with Stone was a monotonally bad decision! And didn't Lawson leave because he was sleeping with the secretary?


Noooo, I was referring to LFP being completely taken over by Walter :biggrin:

In terms of Lawson's retirement...
Lawson's wife went off with Machin, and Lawson has been seeing Janet Edwards hence why she is also retiring. Oh, and Janet is a Lecturer, not a Secretary! :p:
Reply 16
loopymeg
Noooo, I was referring to LFP being completely taken over by Walter :biggrin:

In terms of Lawson's retirement...
Lawson's wife went off with Machin, and Lawson has been seeing Janet Edwards hence why she is also retiring. Oh, and Janet is a Lecturer, not a Secretary! :p:


We were supposed to have someone other than Walter :eek: how dare they! - Walter rules!
Reply 17
EarlFuzz
We were supposed to have someone other than Walter :eek: how dare they! - Walter rules!


In previous years, there was another lecturer for the module, and almost everyone failed it because he was so bad. Thus, the department got rid of him and got Walter to take over everything..... Yay!
Well thank god for that :biggrin: It worked as well seing that I got %76 in LFP!

As for the Lawson stuff, that is just strange :s-smilie:
Reply 19
Did somone mention Karen Williams?