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Original post by generallee
I am white myself and don't want to become a minority in my ancestral homeland?


That's unlikely to happen and even if it does, there is nothing wrong with that. Are you afraid of being persecuted like ethnic minorities are being persecuted by whites?

Also, immigration isn't the only factor in decreasing numbers of white people. Has noone realised this? Or do you guys believe that white guys should only marry white girls and white girls should only marry white guys?
Original post by generallee
I am white myself and don't want to become a minority in my ancestral homeland?


I'm white too and I don't care.

Why do you care?
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Original post by Kieran1996
Two things;

A) define "backwards regions"
B) if Asian and Black only committed 20% roughly then who committed the other 80% of rapes? :confused::confused::confused:


Backwards regions are places where you are beheaded for loving someone of the 'wrong' gender, where you can be beheaded or stoned to death for questioning your religion or for 'allowing yourself' to be raped and 'technically' commit adultery.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30426473)
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executions-philip-hammond-condemned-by-rights-campaigners-for-excusing-mass-killings-a6802641.html)
(https://www.amnesty.org.uk/lgbti-lgbt-gay-human-rights-law-africa-uganda-kenya-nigeria-cameroon)

Backwards regions are places where little girls experience female genital mutilation, where tribal patterns are carved onto childrens' faces, where people hunt down, kill and eat albinos due to their superstitious beliefs.
(http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/06/what-is-female-genital-mutilation-where-happen)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27412311) (graphic image at end of baby in great distress)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7518049.stm)

Backwards regions are places where migrants can come from to Europe and rape and get away with it because they 'were never taught rape was wrong' Places were women are second class citizens and can't drive and have to cover their bodies so men don't feel the urge to rape them.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-women-driving-islamic-grand-mufti-sheikh-exposed-to-evil-rights-a6978621.html)
(http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/180393/muslim-imam-claims-women-who-dont-wear-hijabs-are-daniel-greenfield)

Backwards places that allow corrective rape and public lynchings. This and everything else I've mentioned has no place in Europe.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/crisis-in-south-africa-the-shocking-practice-of-corrective-rape-aimed-at-curing-lesbians-9033224.html)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8119201.stm)

The depravity of fundamental Islam and the ruinous tribal beliefs still practices in parts of Africa make the Middle East, North Africa and vast swathes of sub-Saharan Africa culturally incompatible with European countries.

And what, surprise surprise that more rape is committed by white people in a country that outside of major cities is still between 92% and 95% white? The chart shows that in almost every crime white people commit less crime per capita.

@SHallowvale
Original post by SHallowvale
How does crime by ethnicity compare at different levels of economic/social status?

You don't need to be well off to know that rape or infact any crime is wrong. Poor people might be more inclined to steal if they 'need it more' but do they also have more reason to be rapists? Really? Don't be one of those people.

@Jebedee
Original post by Jebedee
Asians isn't a good term to use though surely? That's going to include South East and East Asia which will skew the results. You need to narrow it down.

White isn't a good term to use either. Apparently there is no distinction between Scandinavians, Germans, French, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Dutch, Polish, Estonian, Italian, Swiss and Portuguese people? Ofcourse there is. Doesn't stop the tide of accusations against 'White people', does it.

The data used by the Government uses the category 'Asian' and so does the source I've provided regarding British citizen ethnicity. It's perfectly valid.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by SHallowvale
I'm white too and I don't care.

Why do you care?


Why don't you?

One day you will, trust me, one day you will.
Anybody got the figures of immigrant living in the UK so we can work out what an objective % likeliood is that immigrants are perpetrators. What im asking is how much of UK population is made up of immigrants
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by Roofas
Backwards regions are places where you are beheaded for loving someone of the 'wrong' gender, where you can be beheaded or stoned to death for questioning your religion or for 'allowing yourself' to be raped and 'technically' commit adultery.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30426473)
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executions-philip-hammond-condemned-by-rights-campaigners-for-excusing-mass-killings-a6802641.html)
(https://www.amnesty.org.uk/lgbti-lgbt-gay-human-rights-law-africa-uganda-kenya-nigeria-cameroon)

Backwards regions are places where little girls experience female genital mutilation, where tribal patterns are carved onto childrens' faces, where people hunt down, kill and eat albinos due to their superstitious beliefs.
(http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/06/what-is-female-genital-mutilation-where-happen)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27412311) (graphic image at end of baby in great distress)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7518049.stm)

Backwards regions are places where migrants can come from to Europe and rape and get away with it because they 'were never taught rape was wrong' Places were women are second class citizens and can't drive and have to cover their bodies so men don't feel the urge to rape them.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-women-driving-islamic-grand-mufti-sheikh-exposed-to-evil-rights-a6978621.html)
(http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/180393/muslim-imam-claims-women-who-dont-wear-hijabs-are-daniel-greenfield)

Backwards places that allow corrective rape and public lynchings. This and everything else I've mentioned has no place in Europe.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/crisis-in-south-africa-the-shocking-practice-of-corrective-rape-aimed-at-curing-lesbians-9033224.html)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8119201.stm)

The depravity of fundamental Islam and the ruinous tribal beliefs still practices in parts of Africa make the Middle East, North Africa and vast swathes of sub-Saharan Africa culturally incompatible with European countries.

And what, surprise surprise that more rape is committed by white people in a country that outside of major cities is still between 92% and 95% white? The chart shows that in almost every crime white people commit less crime per capita.

@SHallowvale

You don't need to be well off to know that rape or infact any crime is wrong. Poor people might be more inclined to steal if they 'need it more' but do they also have more reason to be rapists? Really? Don't be one of those people.

@Jebedee

White isn't a good term to use either. Apparently there is no distinction between Scandinavians, Germans, French, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Dutch, Polish, Estonian, Italian, Swiss and Portuguese people? Ofcourse there is. Doesn't stop the tide of accusations against 'White people', does it.

The data used by the Government uses the category 'Asian' and so does the source I've provided regarding British citizen ethnicity. It's perfectly valid.



It sickens me how people can simply ignore information like this, and pull the racist card in order to recieve their popular opinion award on TSR to supplement their own ego. If you ignore these facts, and horrific crimes to be politically correct, and you invite in the idea of millions of immigrants into Europe in order to 'increase diversity', and you vote to stay in the EU, making it easeir gateway for them to access the UK, then you are partially responsible for the future gang rapes, female genital mutilation, honour killings, corrective rape that will be committed against innocent people in the UK. I hope that your ignorance will save you. I guarantee youd have different opinions on the matter if your mother was gang raped by a group of immigrants from a place where we can justify their actions due to 'poor social status' and lack of laws.

Roofas, you hit the nail on the head when you said that there is distinction between Scandinavians, Germans, French, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Dutch, Polish, Estonian, Italian, Swiss and Portuguese people. Europe is the most diverse nation there is. Culturally and physically. Culturally, worldwide people would be able to distinguish between each culture you named for typical reasons. The dutch with their cloggs, the scottish with their haggis, the french with their crepes, etc..theres so much more than that. Europe is populated with such different places with different traditions. Yet they can live in harmony. Unlike these places on the otherside of the world that are very much the same, yet enveloped in war. Physicaly: In Europe, we have brown eyes, green eyes, blue eyes, brown hair, blonde hair, ginger hair, black hair, white skin, tanned skin, brown skin, dark brown skin, freckles etc..whereas in those places, it is primarily dark brown eyes, dark brown hair. Which are genetically dominant. So increasing the number of immigrants will actually DECREASE the diversity in the Uk, both culturally and physically.
Plus, side note: its racist to lump the entire west together as "white", becuase that simply isn't true.

You also were very right when you said that we're incompatible. One of us will have to back down. And unfortunateely, due to the popular opinions of politically correct ignoramuses, it looks like uts going to be us that backs down.

If we're sticking up for them, and they're sitking up for them, who is going to stick up for you when you become the minority in your own country. They have somewhere they came from, you have nowhere else to go. Protect your country like you'd protect your family. Help the rest of the world, like you'd help your friend.
Original post by Butternuts96
What's wrong with a decreasing number of white coloured people in the UK?


There'd be fewer working people, so less tax coming in to support the muslims.
Original post by wednesday_adams
I'm not saying that this was necessarily comitted by people who have immigrated to the UK from countires where this type of atrocity is more common, but unfortunately the stats cannot be ignored that incidents like these are increasing in numbers in the UK.
This is what happens when we introduce other cultures into the UK that refuse to abandon their medieval and atrocious views, and practices that are viewed abhorrent in the UK, but normal in their eyes.
This is why incidences such as FGM have been on the rise in the UK. Many of these people live in cultures where women have little respect, and are treated in ways that are simply unacceptable here. However, through lax immigration policies , we introduce a range of people who refuse to adapt to our culture, and continue to carry out their backwards practices in the UK.


We need to close our borders and build a wall! Rape didn't happen before we started letting immigrants in!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original post by Roofas
Backwards regions are places where you are beheaded for loving someone of the 'wrong' gender, where you can be beheaded or stoned to death for questioning your religion or for 'allowing yourself' to be raped and 'technically' commit adultery.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30426473)
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executions-philip-hammond-condemned-by-rights-campaigners-for-excusing-mass-killings-a6802641.html)
(https://www.amnesty.org.uk/lgbti-lgbt-gay-human-rights-law-africa-uganda-kenya-nigeria-cameroon)

Backwards regions are places where little girls experience female genital mutilation, where tribal patterns are carved onto childrens' faces, where people hunt down, kill and eat albinos due to their superstitious beliefs.
(http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/06/what-is-female-genital-mutilation-where-happen)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27412311) (graphic image at end of baby in great distress)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7518049.stm)

Backwards regions are places where migrants can come from to Europe and rape and get away with it because they 'were never taught rape was wrong' Places were women are second class citizens and can't drive and have to cover their bodies so men don't feel the urge to rape them.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-women-driving-islamic-grand-mufti-sheikh-exposed-to-evil-rights-a6978621.html)
(http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/180393/muslim-imam-claims-women-who-dont-wear-hijabs-are-daniel-greenfield)

Backwards places that allow corrective rape and public lynchings. This and everything else I've mentioned has no place in Europe.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/crisis-in-south-africa-the-shocking-practice-of-corrective-rape-aimed-at-curing-lesbians-9033224.html)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8119201.stm)

The depravity of fundamental Islam and the ruinous tribal beliefs still practices in parts of Africa make the Middle East, North Africa and vast swathes of sub-Saharan Africa culturally incompatible with European countries.

And what, surprise surprise that more rape is committed by white people in a country that outside of major cities is still between 92% and 95% white? The chart shows that in almost every crime white people commit less crime per capita.

@SHallowvale

You don't need to be well off to know that rape or infact any crime is wrong. Poor people might be more inclined to steal if they 'need it more' but do they also have more reason to be rapists? Really? Don't be one of those people.

@Jebedee

White isn't a good term to use either. Apparently there is no distinction between Scandinavians, Germans, French, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Dutch, Polish, Estonian, Italian, Swiss and Portuguese people? Ofcourse there is. Doesn't stop the tide of accusations against 'White people', does it.

The data used by the Government uses the category 'Asian' and so does the source I've provided regarding British citizen ethnicity. It's perfectly valid.


I do actually think there is likely an increased prevalence of rape in those that are poor; It is not because they are poor, but the environment that they may exist within, makes it more likely, not just rape but all crime.
Would be foolish to ignore confounds in the statistical data. Crime is higher in minority groups due to a great part to things related to their position within society. You could perhaps state it as a societal issue, not tacking these issues.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by hellodave5
I do actually think there is likely an increased prevalence of rape in those that are poor; It is not because they are poor, but the environment that they may exist within, makes it more likely, not just rape but all crime.
Would be foolish to ignore confounds in the statistical data. Crime is higher in minority groups due to a great part to things related to their position within society. You could perhaps state it as a societal issue, not tacking these issues.



Have you ever heard of 'positive discrimination'? Also known as 'affirmative action'? These societal issues are being tacked, and have been for years.
Original post by wednesday_adams
Have you ever heard of 'positive discrimination'? Also known as 'affirmative action'? These societal issues are being tacked, and have been for years.


That isn't tacking an issue, simply a way of avoiding or glossing over them.
There has to be greater investment into education and social infrastructure, which has been dwindling considerably.
Even those not from an impoverished background are being failed at the level of education.
Original post by wednesday_adams
Have you ever heard of 'positive discrimination'? Also known as 'affirmative action'? These societal issues are being tacked, and have been for years.


I don't think that fighting issues created by discrimination with discrimination is a good thing. It's akin to trying to put out a house fire with a flamethrower.

Any form of discrimination, "positive" (and let's not beat about the bush here; seeing as someone somewhere is going to lose out based on something as arbitrary as the recipients skin colour, it's hardly positive for all involved) or otherwise, is wrong.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand: apparently this happened a month ago. One wonders why this is the first he's heard of it. Hardly on the same scale, but the police weren't exactly keen to go to the media straight after hearing the reports from Rotherham...
I'm unwilling to jump to conclusions, and I'd much rather reserve judgement until all the facts have been released, but I must say I'm unsurprised that much of the assumed blame is being laid at the feet of immigrants given that Rotherham is so fresh in the memory.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by MildredMalone
There'd be fewer working people, so less tax coming in to support the muslims.


So all white people work and all non-whites do not work and are scrounging?
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ywhkfi
Original post by KingBradly
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/young-woman-gang-raped-at-94534/

What a horrific thing. This seems like a very unusual attack to me.


Rotherham
Original post by Roofas
@SHallowvale

You don't need to be well off to know that rape or infact any crime is wrong. Poor people might be more inclined to steal if they 'need it more' but do they also have more reason to be rapists? Really? Don't be one of those people.


No, but if you did not have a particularly good education and had grown up in a poor environment then I'd expect that you'd be more prone to commiting crimes than someone who didn't. This ties to wealth.

I wouldn't say that need is necessary either.
Original post by generallee
Why don't you?

One day you will, trust me, one day you will.


Because I don't see how becoming a minority, skin colour wise, would have any meaningful impact on my life.

Do you think it will?
Original post by SHallowvale
Because I don't see how becoming a minority, skin colour wise, would have any meaningful impact on my life.

Do you think it will?


As you are incredibly naïve.
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Original post by wednesday_adams
Unusual for the UK. Unfortunately not so for many other parts of the world. Its a shame that we appear to be moving backwards rather than forwards in the UK.


I wonder why we are moving in this direction? One things for sure, it has nothing to do with importing swarms of the third world
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Original post by digistar_100
Why is the "dem filthy immigants" card being brought up when the article doesn't even mention the culprits ethnicity/nationality?


Because it takes two guesses what type of people do this
Original post by Roofas
Backwards regions are places where you are beheaded for loving someone of the 'wrong' gender, where you can be beheaded or stoned to death for questioning your religion or for 'allowing yourself' to be raped and 'technically' commit adultery.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30426473)
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-executions-philip-hammond-condemned-by-rights-campaigners-for-excusing-mass-killings-a6802641.html)
(https://www.amnesty.org.uk/lgbti-lgbt-gay-human-rights-law-africa-uganda-kenya-nigeria-cameroon)

Backwards regions are places where little girls experience female genital mutilation, where tribal patterns are carved onto childrens' faces, where people hunt down, kill and eat albinos due to their superstitious beliefs.
(http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/06/what-is-female-genital-mutilation-where-happen)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27412311) (graphic image at end of baby in great distress)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7518049.stm)

Backwards regions are places where migrants can come from to Europe and rape and get away with it because they 'were never taught rape was wrong' Places were women are second class citizens and can't drive and have to cover their bodies so men don't feel the urge to rape them.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-women-driving-islamic-grand-mufti-sheikh-exposed-to-evil-rights-a6978621.html)
(http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/180393/muslim-imam-claims-women-who-dont-wear-hijabs-are-daniel-greenfield)

Backwards places that allow corrective rape and public lynchings. This and everything else I've mentioned has no place in Europe.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/crisis-in-south-africa-the-shocking-practice-of-corrective-rape-aimed-at-curing-lesbians-9033224.html)
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8119201.stm)

The depravity of fundamental Islam and the ruinous tribal beliefs still practices in parts of Africa make the Middle East, North Africa and vast swathes of sub-Saharan Africa culturally incompatible with European countries.

And what, surprise surprise that more rape is committed by white people in a country that outside of major cities is still between 92% and 95% white? The chart shows that in almost every crime white people commit less crime per capita.

@SHallowvale

You don't need to be well off to know that rape or infact any crime is wrong. Poor people might be more inclined to steal if they 'need it more' but do they also have more reason to be rapists? Really? Don't be one of those people.

@Jebedee

White isn't a good term to use either. Apparently there is no distinction between Scandinavians, Germans, French, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Dutch, Polish, Estonian, Italian, Swiss and Portuguese people? Ofcourse there is. Doesn't stop the tide of accusations against 'White people', does it.

The data used by the Government uses the category 'Asian' and so does the source I've provided regarding British citizen ethnicity. It's perfectly valid.


Very clever, thrown in a bunch of media reports to back your claims up. I am sorry but the media is hardly a reliably source, especially when we have Rupert sitting at the top and with him being a strong Leave supporter.

How many of these backward countries have you been to then? I have been to a few and infact have family from a few and no one I met or know there would commit what you have stated.

What you have done is stereotype a bunch of people which is absolutely disgutsting. These countries you mention will have a larger population and common sense will tell you that means more rotten eggs.

NOW BACK TO THE OP ARTICLE

Please tell me where the article mentions the offenders nationality? I can see from your profile picture you clearly want out of the EU but there is no need to bring irrelevant information to the table m8.

If I had the time I'd argue with stats and articles but some of us have full time jobs and education to be getting on with, unlike Leave supporters. But I guess you would not like that generalisation would you?

P.S. Very funny that you mock those countries yet we still have "whites" who commit here.

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