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What would you do if I got a 2.2

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Reply 20

Wise One
Hmm, that's all very well, but do you have any proper statistics to back up your claims?


The Good Times University guide shows the percentage of students getting 1sts and 2:1s, for each university, under the category of "Good Honours".

The lowest is De Montfort with 38.7% and 90.4% for Cambridge.

Reply 21

CoolSocks
The Good Times University guide shows the percentage of students getting 1sts and 2:1s, for each university, under the category of "Good Honours".

The lowest is De Montfort with 38.7% and 90.4% for Cambridge.


Surely that proves that statistics can't always be taken at face value though? You're talking about grade inflation, so judging by those figures, it seems like it's much easier to get a 1st or 2.1 from Cambridge than De Montfort, but that's obviously far from the case. Just like the percentage of people getting As at A-level in each subject. The statistics would suggest that it's much easier to get an A in further maths than in media studies, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would actually argue that.

Reply 22

kellywood_5
Surely that proves that statistics can't always be taken at face value though? You're talking about grade inflation, so judging by those figures, it seems like it's much easier to get a 1st or 2.1 from Cambridge than De Montfort, but that's obviously far from the case.

Well, it is easier statistically - which is all those statistics are saying, really.:wink:

Reply 23

If you got a 2.2 I wouldn't care.

otoh I got a 2.2 I would probably end my life. Cos well academics mean a lot to me, and I don't think I could deal with something as low and base as a 2.2.

Reply 24

kellywood_5
Surely that proves that statistics can't always be taken at face value though? You're talking about grade inflation, so judging by those figures, it seems like it's much easier to get a 1st or 2.1 from Cambridge than De Montfort, but that's obviously far from the case. Just like the percentage of people getting As at A-level in each subject. The statistics would suggest that it's much easier to get an A in further maths than in media studies, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would actually argue that.


To be honest generally degree classifications are fairly objective unless they come from a really bad uni. Although actually, I have to point out that the ex-Oxbridge lecturers seem to mark us easier than the people who've been here (SOAS) the whole time...

Reply 25

kellywood_5
Surely that proves that statistics can't always be taken at face value though? You're talking about grade inflation, so judging by those figures, it seems like it's much easier to get a 1st or 2.1 from Cambridge than De Montfort, but that's obviously far from the case. Just like the percentage of people getting As at A-level in each subject. The statistics would suggest that it's much easier to get an A in further maths than in media studies, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would actually argue that.


Of course further maths is more difficult than media studies and the percentage of people getting As at each subject does not reflect their difficulty but has more to do with the quality of student that studies each.

The main point I was making was supporting his point that a minority of graduates obtain 2:2s or lower, since someone asked for statistics to prove his points, even De Montfront which likely has quite poor quality students, the figure of people getting 2:2s or lower is relatively low. His point that grade inflation has occurred at degree level over the past decades is supported.

Reply 26

korektphool
I don't think I could deal with something as low and base as a 2.2.


Wow, **** you

Reply 27

Depends on course/uni. Some Cambridge degrees didn't give anything below a 2.i last year. Others had papers where the average mark was below a fail. I'm highly driven and i've achieved exceptionally highly in the past, but this year I'm expecting a third, that's just how my course is.

Reply 28

cutandpasteandtwisty
WTF?! Your priorities are seriously wrong. Sure a 2.2 might not be ideal, but it's hardly 'horrible'. Losing a limb would be horrible. Contracting HIV-AIDS would be horrible. Getting a 2.2 isn't that bad. No-one is defined by their degree mark. If you get a 2.2, chin up and get on with your life ffs.



Ditto..........

a 2:2 is 10000% better than you losing limb or living on the streets....you still can get some good jobs with a 2:2 , just do another degree who cares, ppl in their 30s do degrees now days.....its not that bad.......there are people selling their kidnys 2 feed thier family.........now thats horrible not a 2:2........ +ve rep for you cutandpasteandtwisty !!!

Reply 29

If you get a 2.2, the main thing in my opinion is to not let it ruin your life - don't think 'Omg I'm screwed I got a 2.2 and I'll never get a good job/the job I wanted to get' etc. Because then you won't succeed. You have to try and not let it affect your future, as much as possible. Get out there and do everything you can to get the job you want and do exactly what you planned with your life and who says you won't succeed? With effort and hard work and enthusiasm a 2.2 should affect your life a lot less than you think - my mum's friend got a 3rd in her degree but yet is now in an incredibly successful, high-paid position because she woked hard regardless and made it. (Sorry for the cheesiness. Hope this helps a bit. :smile:)

Reply 30

Not that I belong in this forum - but my sister graduated with a 2.2 last summer (Economics at Bristol) and is doing quite well at the moment. Granted, she may not be working for the Big Four but she still has a decent finance related job and because she works hard, I hope she'll have a great career. She was devastated when she found out because she thought she had lost every chance but it truly isn't the end of the world. And her employers told her that he would much rather take a 2.2 from Bristol than a 1st from Westminster or something.

Reply 31

Yasser Hayatli
Ditto..........

a 2:2 is 10000% better than you losing limb or living on the streets....you still can get some good jobs with a 2:2 , just do another degree who cares, ppl in their 30s do degrees now days.....its not that bad.......there are people selling their kidnys 2 feed thier family.........now thats horrible not a 2:2........ +ve rep for you cutandpasteandtwisty !!!


It was a silly comment, considering I never suggested getting a 2:2 was worse than losing a limb. My post was perfectly clear.

Reply 32

Excalibur
And her employers told her that he would much rather take a 2.2 from Bristol than a 1st from Westminster or something.


I think you've just inadvertently provided the first real answer to the ongoing 'how much does reputation matter?' debate.....

Reply 33

I could get a 2.2 - it's all riding on my final project. Honestly I think I'd be a bit upset for a while but I already have a job for when I graduate and once you're qualified in the profession I'm going into I don't think it really matters what you got as long as you got at least a 2.2. At the end of day I'm happy that I've got myself through a four year degree from a good uni.

Reply 34

Fair enough, I see the same plans as what I have. If I get a 2.2, I want to do an MSc to compensate and get rid of the stigma of a 2.2.

All unis I have seen ask for a "good first honours degree". What does this mean? One friend said this means a 1.1 or 2.1 (hence the 1), but I know there are students with 2.2 and even 3rds doing Mscs. My uni asks for a good first honours degree, so if I get a 2.2, am I digging a hole for myself?

What about students with a 2.1 in a bsc AND msc, or 2.1 and first, or first in both? Surely I'll lose out then and I'm sure there are many students with those sort of grades.

Reply 35

Does 2.2 correspond to the sadness in achieving a C in A-level?

I'm a newbie to this degree level thing.

Reply 36

Eau
Does 2.2 correspond to the sadness in achieving a C in A-level?

I'm a newbie to this degree level thing.


Well, the grading goes (from best to worst) First, 2.1 (upper second), 2.2 (lower second), third and pass (without honours) and a lot of Masters courses and graduate recruiment programmes seem to ask for a 2.1, so yeah, I'd say a 2.2 roughly equates to a C at A-level in the sense that it's seen as acceptable but not good.

Reply 37

-Blade-
What about students with a 2.1 in a bsc AND msc, or 2.1 and first, or first in both? Surely I'll lose out then and I'm sure there are many students with those sort of grades.

I don't think post-grad degrees/diplomas are marked on the same sliding scale as undergrad degrees. I think it's just pass or fail, or possibly distinction though not really 100% on any of that.

Reply 38

db
I don't think post-grad degrees/diplomas are marked on the same sliding scale as undergrad degrees. I think it's just pass or fail, or possibly distinction though not really 100% on any of that.


It's Pass or Fail, with some having Merit and Distinction for outstanding work.

Reply 39

IzzyWizzy

If I don't get a 2:1, I will appeal/complain to the uni, since I'm clearly at least a straight 2:1 student, have had perfect or close to perfect attendance throughout the course, have had great marks in continual assessment all year and had complained various times about my dissertation supervisor and was told to stop fussing and that I would definitely do well anyway. A 2:2 would be totally unfair and wouldn't reflect my ability and hard work. .

Unfortunately that's not how uni works, is it? If you decided to study a course where your whole degree hangs on your final mark then you can't really complain later when it back fires. Exams rarely reflect what people are capable of, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

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