M384 - Motion to Encourage European Commission Investigation Into Apple

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M384 - Motion to Encourage European Commission Investigation Into Apple, TSR Socialist Party

This House notes:

1. Under Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of European Union, abuse of a dominant position within the internal market is prohibited.
2. Following T-201/04 Microsoft Corporation v Commission, technical bundling may be regarded as anticompetitive conduct even if the tied product is free software.
3. Apple ties many different products to its phones and music players, whether that is free software (in the form of iTunes), or proprietary cables.
4. While competitors in different markets have been investigated, Apple never has.

This House believes:

1. Apple holds a dominant position within the smartphone and portable music player markets.
2. The technical bundling of these products amounts to anticompetitive conduct, and therefore an abuse of a dominant position under Art 102 TFEU.
3. Apple should be investigated for abusing its dominant position by the European Commission.


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Nay - Apple is my friend!
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Looks good.
People before profit!
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Isn't this why we have MEPs?
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(Original post by DanE1998)
Isn't this why we have MEPs?
MEU and MHOC aren't connected (at least as of yet) and the MEU isn't exactly up and running.

Nay though
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MEU and MHOC aren't connected (at least as of yet) and the MEU isn't exactly up and running.

Nay though
I must say, a fine first decision by our DPM.
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(Original post by PetrosAC)
MEU and MHOC aren't connected (at least as of yet) and the MEU isn't exactly up and running.

Nay though
I more wondered about RL MEPs
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I must say, a fine first decision by our DPM.
Hardly my first decision as DPM Mobbsy I've been in the job for a good 5 months!
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I more wondered about RL MEPs
Ah, fair enough. You may have a point there.
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Hardly my first decision as DPM Mobbsy I've been in the job for a good 5 months!
Well, first decision as a DPM of a sensible Government.
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Nay ! Apple is love , Apple is life !
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Until I can get clarification as to why this is in this house and has not been referred to MEPs (IRL or MEU) I won't declare an opinion on the matter
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(Original post by DanE1998)
Until I can get clarification as to why this is in this house and has not been referred to MEPs (IRL or MEU) I won't declare an opinion on the matter
MEU isn't even set up... And we can't really refer this to MEPs irl...
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MEU isn't even set up... And we can't really refer this to MEPs irl...
I understand that, but is this even a matter for this house to consider, is more what I mean to say
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I understand that, but is this even a matter for this house to consider, is more what I mean to say
Oh, erm, well, as a Motion I don't see why not... Not really sure though!
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Is there anything in the whole world that is more boring than ****ing European corporate law?

Apple's closed ecosystem allows for much better user experience and if it means overpriced proprietary cables or specific software to access my own device, I don't really care as long as it works considerably better than the competition. I do not support this motion.
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Oh, erm, well, as a Motion I don't see why not... Not really sure though!

Point of Information Mr Deputy Speaker toronto353

Is this something we would realistically consider doing?
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Is there anything in the whole world that is more boring than ****ing European corporate law?

Apple's closed ecosystem allows for much better user experience and if it means overpriced proprietary cables or specific software to access my own device, I don't really care as long as it works considerably better than the competition. I do not support this motion.
Cables which you can actually buy on amazon for much cheaper, which work just as well. In fact, cables I buy, usually from Anker, have often lasted longer than the Apple cables.
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Nay, worldwide Samsung are in a better position and android have over 80% of the market.
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...1. Apple holds a dominant position within the smartphone and portable music player markets.
I strongly contest the first belief which leads me to a minor Nay in regards to this motion. According to Kantar, the market share of the iOS platform is currently around 19.1% in the EU5 countries compared to the market-share of the Android platform at 74.3%. It would be disingenuous to portray Apple as having a dominant position within the European smartphone market. The UK has a noticeably greater proportion of upmarket smartphones, Apple's target market, than most other member states which leads to greater market-share here, but it is not the same picture elsewhere. In Spain, 90% of the market use Android smartphones.

It is for this reason that the Commission is targeting Android currently rather than Apple. Whilst I agree in principle with some of the objections raised with regards to the walled-garden system of the iOS platform, it does not have sufficient market share to be considered as having a dominant position. Those who dislike the walled-garden approach of the iOS platform can switch to alternative platforms, as other platforms offer upmarket substitutes. Android in comparison has de facto control over the mid-market and entry-level systems.
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