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    A137 - Amendment Voting AmendmentProposed by: The Rt. Hon. Jammy Duel MP (Con)
    Seconded by: The Rt. Hon. Life_peer MP (Con), The Rt. Hon. mobbsy91 MP (Con), The Rt. Hon. the financier MP (Con), The Rt. Hon. PetrosAC MP (Lib)

    Amendment Voting Amendment

    To, in the constitution, replace:

    9.4.to the guiding document will be passed if more MPs vote Aye than No

    9.5.to the constitution will be passed if twice as many MPs vote Aye as No


    with:

    9.4.to non binding segments of the guiding document will be passed if more MPs vote Aye than No

    9.5.to the constitution and/or binding segments of the guiding document will be passed if twice as many MPs vote Aye as No



    NotesThis is a half way house amendment, due to a shortage of time now to go through things more rigorously this comes to the same effect as moving the relevant parts of the Guiding Document to the Constitution. It seems somewhat irrational for certain binding items to require one majority and other binding items to require another


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    Aye Aye Capt'n!
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    Nay.
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    Aye. I see no reason to oppose this amendment.
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    I would prefer all items need a plain majority

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    Why complicate things.

    3/4 vote on all GD and C changes imo
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    Nay.

    I imagine the reason the binding parts of the GD are in the GD is for the very reason that a simple majority is needed to amend them.

    This is a thinly-veiled attempt to prevent the re-introduction of a mass PM.
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    Aye.
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    Nay, the correct way to address the disparity is to reduce the requirement for constitutional amendment to a bare majority.

    Edit: also, it must be stated that it is currently unclear what parts of the GD are binding - although the Constitution states that some are binding, it can be argued that this is not limited. The Amendment should be resubmitted with the precise scope outlined if it is to have any effect.
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    Hmm, what are the chances labour are against this because they want to amend such sections?

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Hmm, what are the chances labour are against this because they want to amend such sections?

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    Hmm, what are the chances the Tories are for this because they want to stop amendments to such sections that they don't like?
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    I want to see the counter argument to SF

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    (Original post by cranbrook_aspie)
    Hmm, what are the chances the Tories are for this because they want to stop amendments to such sections that they don't like?
    We have our own amendments we want, didn't stop the submission.

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    (Original post by That Bearded Man)
    I want to see the counter argument to SF
    In fact I have doubts (perhaps someone more experienced was around then?) that the so-called "binding" sections of the GD were ever intended to be binding, and wonder whether it was actually a question of poorly wording the Constitution.

    In any case, the Constitution is for the very fundamental only. The minutiae of the general election do not fit into that category as I see it.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    In fact I have doubts (perhaps someone more experienced was around then?) that the so-called "binding" sections of the GD were ever intended to be binding, and wonder whether it was actually a question of poorly wording the Constitution.

    In any case, the Constitution is for the very fundamental only. The minutiae of the general election do not fit into that category as I see it.
    Pretty sure there are swathes of the constitution that should be in the GD by that logic.

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    (Original post by Jammy Duel)
    Pretty sure there are swathes of the constitution that should be in the GD by that logic.
    I don't necessarily disagree.
 
 
 
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