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So in June Britain votes to Brexit. The majority of Scots are furious at being taken out of the EU against their will.

The SNP calls an immediate referendum to leave the UK and gets a landslide victory.

1) The Republic of Scotland is free and applies to join the EU.

2) The Queen has to give up her estates and vacate her Scottish palaces as she no longer has influence here. As a result huge savings are made in Scotland by not having a royal family to support the Scottish economy flourishes.

3) It takes a long time before Scotland can enter the EU and get the Euro so they have to devise their own currency without the Queen on. Maybe it becomes the Scottish Dollar or Scottish Euro.

4) Major investment is made into public services in Scotland gained from heavy taxes on the rich and mansion tax. Bedroom tax and welfare cuts are reversed.

5) Scotland gets back into the EU and its economy soars ahead of England and Wales. This results in many English people moving to Republic of Scotland where public services, jobs etc are now far better than in England.

6) Disillusioned parts of Northern England demand unification with Republic Scotland as they feel ignored by Westminster. Scotland now occupies most of the industrial North of England they gain vast coal fields around Newcastle and heavy industry in Yorkshire, which accelerates the Scottish economy even further.

Sounds good?
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It will be poor, at any rate dependent on the price of one commodity, oil. However in the situation you describe it will probably be well funded by the EU (and fast tracked in), as will Yorkshire First.

The UK will also be immeasurably worse off if this happens than if Scotland had gone independent in 2014. And even more worse off than if Miliband had won the 2015 election and begun a federal settlement.
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2. Isn't true, they said last time that they'd retain the Queen as head of state. Therefore your 'savings' guess is false.

4. Rich tax would cause all the rich people to f*** off, rendering the now tiny state even worse off, especially considering oil is worth basically nothing currently.

5. Their economy would not soar solely on the back of being in the EU.

6. Total bolleaux.


So, to summarise;

Complete crap, but not unusual for one of your threads.
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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
So in June Britain votes to Brexit. The majority of Scots are furious at being taken out of the EU against their will.

The SNP calls an immediate referendum to leave the UK and gets a landslide victory.
Considering that the SNP's position thus far has been to retain the Queen as head of state of an independent Scotland, I think it very unlikely that a new republic will be founded on these islands in the near future.

1) The Republic of Scotland is free and applies to join the EU.
It's going to be one hell of an application, given their post-independence economy will most likely not meet the criteria without the books being fiddled, and even if they make it to a vote by the current member states, there's a strong likelihood that Spain and Belgium (and perhaps even the rUK) will veto it.

2) The Queen has to give up her estates and vacate her Scottish palaces as she no longer has influence here. As a result huge savings are made in Scotland by not having a royal family to support the Scottish economy flourishes.
Loss of tourism revenue, plus the new head of state would have his/her own security/lifestyle costs. In any case, any savings will be more than negated by the fact that they can't make a profit on oil with the current price, and will also have to take their share of the UK national debt. They wouldn't be starting with a clean slate by any stretch.

3) It takes a long time before Scotland can enter the EU and get the Euro so they have to devise their own currency without the Queen on. Maybe it becomes the Scottish Dollar or Scottish Euro.
This one is more or less right, I think, though I think they would manage to negotiate the use of the pound with the UK government, though that has obvious drawbacks for a fledgling nation with huge economic problems.

4) Major investment is made into public services in Scotland gained from heavy taxes on the rich and mansion tax. Bedroom tax and welfare cuts are reversed.
Fanciful.

5) Scotland gets back into the EU and its economy soars ahead of England and Wales. This results in many English people moving to Republic of Scotland where public services, jobs etc are now far better than in England.
Very unlikely.

6) Disillusioned parts of Northern England demand unification with Republic Scotland as they feel ignored by Westminster. Scotland now occupies most of the industrial North of England they gain vast coal fields around Newcastle and heavy industry in Yorkshire, which accelerates the Scottish economy even further.

Sounds good?
As the plot for a book, sure. In reality, no.
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(Original post by Ambitious1999)
So in June Britain votes to Brexit. The majority of Scots are furious at being taken out of the EU against their will.

The SNP calls an immediate referendum to leave the UK and gets a landslide victory.

1) The Republic of Scotland is free and applies to join the EU.

2) The Queen has to give up her estates and vacate her Scottish palaces as she no longer has influence here. As a result huge savings are made in Scotland by not having a royal family to support the Scottish economy flourishes.

3) It takes a long time before Scotland can enter the EU and get the Euro so they have to devise their own currency without the Queen on. Maybe it becomes the Scottish Dollar or Scottish Euro.

4) Major investment is made into public services in Scotland gained from heavy taxes on the rich and mansion tax. Bedroom tax and welfare cuts are reversed.

5) Scotland gets back into the EU and its economy soars ahead of England and Wales. This results in many English people moving to Republic of Scotland where public services, jobs etc are now far better than in England.

6) Disillusioned parts of Northern England demand unification with Republic Scotland as they feel ignored by Westminster. Scotland now occupies most of the industrial North of England they gain vast coal fields around Newcastle and heavy industry in Yorkshire, which accelerates the Scottish economy even further.

Sounds good?
Any referendum unilaterally called by the SNP / Scottish gov has no legal power anyway.
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None of that is going to happen though. It's not been two years since the previous referendum, the scottish government can't call one themselves and westminster sure as hell won't give them one after only two years. The system isn't us having a continual stream of referenda until scotland votes to become independent.
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The OP's post just shows how deluded, and mental the supporters of Scottish Independence are! your little make believe story is full of so many lies, delusions and fantasies it's not even worth picking apart.
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The idea that the Scottish economy will flourish as a result of the Queen not going for jaunts across the Highlands gave me a serious case of the rofl's.

Have you made a potential contingency plan for if and when the Scottish economy collapses? Because I'm all for Scottish Independence so long as you guys don't come crawling back to us looking for handouts :yy:
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