The EU is like Hitler - Boris Johnson

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36295208

Not to be outdone by Ken Livingstone, Boris is now comparing the EU to Hitler.

And he calls the remain campaign 'project fear'.
What an absolute idiotic opportunist. He spent his life campaigning for the EU then switches when it suits his leadership ambitions.
A few months ago he supported TTIP now he's suddenly opposed..

But now apparently the EU is like Hitler.
What is it with former mayors of London and Hitler?
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The EU is the Fourth Reich. The Vatican was behind World War 2, Hitler was just a Jesuit puppet.
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What is it with former mayors of London and Hitler?
Not just former ones. Did you not hear? Sadiq Khan is such a radical that he shared a platform with Hitler :holmes:

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Not just former ones. Did you not hear? Sadiq Khan is such a radical that he shared a platform with Hitler :holmes:

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To be fair he only represented him in a legal capacity
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Godwin's Law invoked. Boris, I believe this means you lose. (At the very least, the next leadership battle.)
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Oh dear. There are many good reasons to support Brexit but the way this comes across is horrid. Between Cameron's war and Boris's Hitler i weep for humanity.
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Our next conservative leader everyone.
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Quite surprised someone as intelligent as Boris would say something so stupid. The Brexiters are trying to convince people they're sensible and not living in knee-jerk-reaction land. Then Boris goes and says this. I'm sure their campaigners hitting the streets right now will be delighted with this..............
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Boris is right, we better start building Spitfires and getting Poles, French, Danes, Dutch and Norwegians to come over and fly them for us against the Germans and Italians.
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By the power of removal of context!

Referring to creating a single European state: 'Napoleon, Hitler, various people tried this out, and it ends tragically,’ he said. ‘The EU is an attempt to do this by different methods.

‘But fundamentally what is lacking is the eternal problem, which is that there is no underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe. There is no single authority that anybody respects or understands. That is causing this massive democratic void.’

So are you saying that Hitler didn't try to make a unified European state, or that the EU isn't trying to make a single unified European state?

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Quite surprised someone as intelligent as Boris would say something so stupid. The Brexiters are trying to convince people they're sensible and not living in knee-jerk-reaction land. Then Boris goes and says this. I'm sure their campaigners hitting the streets right now will be delighted with this..............
Except with the inclusion of context things aren't actually that bad at all unless one of your hobbies is revising history. I've posted the quote above and we again see the power of selective quoting to remove context. In fact I'd bet a pound to a penny you didn't read the BBC article because it's in the second paragraph

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If say Alan Johnson had said that

'Golden Dawn, the National Front and the BNP are all trying to break up the EU to advance fascism. UKIP and the pro brexit Tories are attempting to do so through different methods'

You lot would have gone mental. This was calculated like his comment on 'part Kenyan ancestry' and Goldsmiths mayoral campaign. You lot have lost the economic argument and are now resorting to Galloway level politics- maybe that's why you sound like Ken Livingstone!
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Jammy Duel

If say Alan Johnson had said that

'Golden Dawn, the National Front and the BNP are all trying to break up the EU to advance fascism. UKIP and the pro brexit Tories are attempting to do so through different methods'

You lot would have gone mental. This was calculated like his comment on 'part Kenyan ancestry' and Goldsmiths mayoral campaign. You lot have lost the economic argument and are now resorting to Galloway level politics- maybe that's why you sound like Ken Livingstone!
I shall ask you the same as I have asked FoS and BB: which statement do you disagree with, that Napoleon and Hitler tried creating a unified European state under their banner, or that the EU is trying to do so?

One or both has to be false otherwise what you're saying is "Boris is evil for saying something I agree to be true"

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I shall ask you the same as I have asked FoS and BB: which statement do you disagree with, that Napoleon and Hitler tried creating a unified European state under their banner, or that the EU is trying to do so?

One or both has to be false otherwise what you're saying is "Boris is evil for saying something I agree to be true"
They are both true, but Its a false analogy- done on purpose for expedient political purposes. This is why he is wrong to do so.

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The Eu wants a superstate controlled by Germany and so did Hitler. The EU is a peaceful version and if parties in Europe are anything like Labour, the anti-Semitism for forcing Jews to flee in fear of something worse is to come is already there.

These are just facts. The EU is meant to become a superstate - that's its purpose and the left have a problem with anti-Semitism.
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They are both true, but Its a false analogy- done on purpose for expedient political purposes. This is why he is wrong to do so.

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Wait but I though the EU was Hitler?
Why would Boris suddenly change his mind like that? I can think of no reason....
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Idiot.
It's true. You can't deny the EU project is about building a superstate and you can't deny lefty parties in europe have a problem with anti-Semitism.
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It's true. You can't deny the EU project is about building a superstate and you can't deny lefty parties in europe have a problem with anti-Semitism.
Sure you can.

I deny it.
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It's true. You can't deny the EU project is about building a superstate and you can't deny lefty parties in europe have a problem with anti-Semitism.
Why on earth are you bringing anti semitism into it? In fact don't answer, don't derail this thread.
To compare the European Union to hitler is not so much disgusting but laughable. Show me where in the European treaties it calls for genocide...
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Sure you can.

I deny it.
You're denying EU treaties calling for more integration and all demands by senior EU politicians for an EU army, EU tax powers, super-national EU police force, EU courts to try EU citizens, and EU currency is all false. Just look at the chaos in Labour with anti-Semitism.
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