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    where did you get it from? I couldn't find it Sainsbury's
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    (Original post by drsmeeth)
    me too. lol.
    Count me in on that too
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    (Original post by apd35)
    where did you get it from? I couldn't find it Sainsbury's
    Left over from the 96 pack I bought last term
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    When are you going to Hall btw?
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    Now
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    The problem is, the market is never going to gravitate towards sustainability on its own. Halting climate change is going to require a smaller world economy overall - far less consumption of resources, as well as a major reduction in efficiency to avoid environmental side-effects of production. The market won't do it - regulation is the only way. Probably regulation to an extent far beyond what would ever be politically and socially viable as well.
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    (Original post by definenew)
    So we have to go on the precautionary principle because you and a bunch of other tree huggers say so?

    One minute environmentalists are telling us to plant trees because doing so cuts global warming. The next minute we're told plants cause global warming. So what do we do now, cut them down or plant some more?

    Because as far as I can see, we were planting trees to combat global warming, and now we find out that we've been (inadvertantly) causing more global warming. So, by acting on the "precautionary principle", Greg, we've ******ed up the planet even more.

    But as long as you feel better I guess that's okay.
    Yes because this whole saving the planet thing is just about giving me something to do. Again, paraphrasing Zac Goldmsith, if I didn't think the planet needed saving or couldn't be then I would be having a great tme.


    OK a few things about the trees article:
    First, you go we know nothing about the environment and now you choose to accuse me and environmentalists of ****ing it up more. You can't have it both ways. Either you don't completely agree with your statement that we know nothing about the environment or you do? Which is it? And if you don't believe we know anything then your argument from above doesn't stand.

    Also its not just me and a bunch of other tree huggers, the government's chief scientist believes that global warming is the biggest threat facing us, more so than terrorism. If we look at the new scientist http://www.newscientist.com/channel/...climate-change almost all the articles talk about the threat of climate change. these are not treehuggers, these are scientists doing emperical research.

    Also even if trees are causing the emittence of methane there is a cost benefit analysis needed to see how many trees are needed. By increasing forestation levels to previous rates (which incidentally also has benefits such as reduction of flooding, increasing biodiversity etc etc which the article doesn't mention) we can suck up more CO2 than at present but trees are not the be all answer here. We need to reduce our own emissions of certain gases (which incidentally include methane, if we did not produce so much then this would not be an issue in the first place)
    2nd as the article points out, there is plenty of evidence for global warming. If you had asked me before the article then I would have been able to tell you trees are only part of the equation because eventually they release their CO2 and as I mentioned above we need to do other things to protect the planet.

    I fully accept that we don't know everything and might on occassion do more harm than good and there are phenomena that need more investigating, ie global dimming. But just out of interest what more information do you need than the chief scientist saying its the biggest challenge that faces us, the vast majority of climatologists saying it is a major problem, government workgroups saying we have 10 years to save the planet? What would convince you that this is an issue?
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    Caffeine addiction = baaaaad. Don't develop one.
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    I already have.
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    Lightweights. I survive on 2l water bottles alone :p:
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    (Original post by notyourpunk)
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    Its more than 'just' better than being a BNPer. Pay a visit to any council with a BNP representative, people would gladly switch them for a tory any day of the week
    erm i think , i think she may just have been being sarcastic. Talking of politics though , how does one work their way up from canvaser - mp etc ??always rather curious!
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    Oh my ******ing GOD! Naxos Music Library Rocks!
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    God, I am SO glad to be back.
    Tomorrow I raid the shops.
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    Been there, done that...

    spent too much allready. On jumpers. I was cold last term...
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    I want strawberries.
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    I can't sleep. This is annoying.
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    Me neithers.m And IU'm totallym wasted/
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    I'm already on my first essay crisis... this sucks
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    (Original post by xx_ambellina_xx)
    I can't sleep. This is annoying.
    *poke*

    I think i was escorted back to my room last night. I have a massive cut above my lip and on my chin. My head hurts. I can't find my alcohol. I can't find my laptop power cable. I need someone to tell me what the **** happenend.

    :s:
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    (Original post by visesh)
    *poke*

    I think i was escorted back to my room last night. I have a massive cut above my lip and on my chin. My head hurts. I can't find my alcohol. I can't find my laptop power cable. I need someone to tell me what the **** happenend.

    :s:
    *looks amused*

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