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Note, it also said within the last year.
Hm there's two questions on it though, 11 and 15, one is in the last year, one is "ever." With 15, you could be a straight girl who had sex with say a bi guy who has had sex with a gay man and fail on that account.
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well maybe if you fail stage 15 it means that they will do some tests on you and if they are fine, you can give blood...however stage 11 means you CANT give blood, fall stop....i.e. you have to wait a year.

oh and when you said "I'm gay, stage 11 i think" i almost asked "what are the different stages of gayness?"....stage 11 would in that case make you sound like a rather experienced person!
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Hm there's two questions on it though, 11 and 15, one is in the last year, one is "ever." With 15, you could be a straight girl who had sex with say a bi guy who has had sex with a gay man and fail on that account.
Well, at least you'll be spared of that needle then.
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well maybe if you fail stage 15 it means that they will do some tests on you and if they are fine, you can give blood...however stage 11 means you CANT give blood, fall stop....i.e. you have to wait a year.

oh and when you said "I'm gay, stage 11 i think" i almost asked "what are the different stages of gayness?"....stage 11 would in that case make you sound like a rather experienced person!
11 notches I guess. That'll be a diffinte no no for blood donor then. Not until next year anyway.
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(Original post by Willa)
well maybe if you fail stage 15 it means that they will do some tests on you and if they are fine, you can give blood...however stage 11 means you CANT give blood, fall stop....i.e. you have to wait a year.

oh and when you said "I'm gay, stage 11 i think" i almost asked "what are the different stages of gayness?"....stage 11 would in that case make you sound like a rather experienced person!
lol stage 11, that puts me in a tank top and hotpants, *throws self off cliff*
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I guess the reality of the situation is that they'd rather have donors who have never had any form of sex...however since that would reduce donor numbers significantly, they have to allow people who have heterosexual sex, to boost the numbers, and yet feel that this gives them enough donors such that they dont need blood from the slightly riskier social group: homosexuals (That's not a homophobic statement, we all know that there is more HIV and such floating around the gay scene)
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lol stage 11, that puts me in a tank top and hotpants, *throws self off cliff*
i presume you're not a camp gay person then......if you are, then that's the type i agree with. I disagree with gay people wanting to distinguish themselves from the rest of us....if they feel they need to do that, well then why should we give them equal rights? Although I dont know if the campness is an act or not (to me it seems like it is to an extent)
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I guess the reality of the situation is that they'd rather have donors who have never had any form of sex...however since that would reduce donor numbers significantly, they have to allow people who have heterosexual sex, to boost the numbers, and yet feel that this gives them enough donors such that they dont need blood from the slightly riskier social group: homosexuals (That's not a homophobic statement, we all know that there is more HIV and such floating around the gay scene)
What about swingers?
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if anyone wants to give blood while they're at cam, I'm going around the 1st of Nov so you can come with me for some moral support if you want

or i am sure nicky would be happy to drag along some new converts next time she goes!!
Yup! 9th November, assuming my timetable works out. And assuming I've eaten enough raw steak to bring my Hb levels up enough... Anyone is welcome to come: you can chat to me while I donate if you like cos it can be a bit boring. (I saw someone with a book the other day... good idea)

On a slight tangent... I hate having a proper job with no internet access! You miss loads during the day!
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I guess the reality of the situation is that they'd rather have donors who have never had any form of sex...however since that would reduce donor numbers significantly, they have to allow people who have heterosexual sex, to boost the numbers, and yet feel that this gives them enough donors such that they dont need blood from the slightly riskier social group: homosexuals (That's not a homophobic statement, we all know that there is more HIV and such floating around the gay scene)
Yeah, and they have to put safety ahead of any commitments to PCness. Though we were talking about this before, and somebody raised the point of african males.
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i presume you're not a camp gay person then......if you are, then that's the type i agree with. I disagree with gay people wanting to distinguish themselves from the rest of us....if they feel they need to do that, well then why should we give them equal rights? Although I dont know if the campness is an act or not (to me it seems like it is to an extent)
I'm not remotely camp no. I have absolutely no commitments whatsoever to the scene. In fact the few times I've been dragged to the gay village, I threatened to blow it up.
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Well thats why they put the "HIV" question in......they obviously screen everyone for these things, but it isnt a perfect test, so they need to narrow things down beforehand. They might actually turn an african male away if he has been living in africa for a part of his life, and having unprotected sex there.
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hi!

Thought I'd pop my head round the door for a minute. I'm not connected to the net at work and on expensive metered internet in evenings so won't be back for another few days...

bye!
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In fact the few times I've been dragged to the gay village, I threatened to blow it up.
You sound like a catholic.

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I think there's a question on have you ever lived anywhere other than Western Europe btw.

Aww that's a shame fishpaste. {huggles} If I get into Cam you can have one of my blood donation stickers.

Oh and btw Willa they let me off with a slight cold (i.e. runny nose and a bit of a headache) so you never know.


Anyway......I DID IT And I'm very proud of myself.

Probably drove the staff up the wall with my constant chatter. My iron levels are perfect supposedly. And I flow really fast. They had to stop taking my friend's cos she was so slow, but they actually wanted me to slow down because I was about as fast as you can be, and it's not the best idea to be fast on your first time supposedly. Not that I could really do anything about it. And I feel fine now. I got an ickle passport thing I'm about to fill in. My friends who I made go last time got little pin badges with their blood type on and a little thing telling them what their type says about their character.
And of course the free biccies
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(Original post by Acaila)
And I flow really fast.

I wonder if these are related.

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Yeah, and they have to put safety ahead of any commitments to PCness. Though we were talking about this before, and somebody raised the point of african males.

Not getting defensive or anything, but there is more HIV now in the heterosexual population...Widley reported by the news earlier this year...

I think you're allowed to be gay and give (!) but I think not if you've actually slept with another man - it doesn't mention homosexuality, just the act, on the form..

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This is the impression I'm under too.

There is a very small risk, ulcers or no...And what about spontaneous chafing?? :eek:

On an interesting sidenote, HIV is present in saliva, just not in quantities large enough to be a danger...

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There is a very small risk, ulcers or no...And what about spontaneous chafing?? :eek:

On an interesting sidenote, HIV is present in saliva, just not in quantities large enough to be a danger...

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You may kiss someone who's HIV positive so long as you don't have any cuts inside your mouth (so I've been told).
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You may kiss someone who's HIV positive so long as you don't have any cuts inside your mouth (so I've been told).
Yes, you definitely can, as I said above, there's no danger...It's just I always thought there was no danger 'cause it wasn't present...i.e. interesting side-note :rolleyes:

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