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    There arent any jews in the liberal party of canada, wtf are you on.

    o right, you are one of 300 million ingorant americans.
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    First off, thank you two for showing why i cant stand the debate forum, so here's the deal:
    (Original post by WildAmerican)
    Canada sucks because they are run by liberal jews and now realize the hole they let themselves get into. I wouldnt be ****ging off on the US before putting your OWN country through the proverbial ringer first.
    You can shut your mouth about Jews, i am tired of hearing it.

    (Original post by Canuck)
    There arent any jews in the liberal party of canada, wtf are you on. o right, you are one of 300 million ingorant americans.
    And you can shut up about Americans.

    There! Now everyone is happy!
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    hey, all i am calling him is ingorant, well, a bit of an exageration, maby all americans arent ingorant, well, 50% of them support the war in iraq, so thats 150 million, better now?
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    (Original post by PadFoot90)
    First off, thank you two for showing why i cant stand the debate forum, so here's the deal:
    Indeed. Quite why the moderators have been busy needlessly deleting threads while completely ignoring numerous complaints about this guy is beyond me.
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    (Original post by canuck)
    1) Hitler called himself a National socailists, I have a friend you studies Nazi germany like the average man studies women. Hitler made created programs to stimulate his economy. Although they were military, his german economy flourished from what it used to be.
    Hitler may have devised programs to stimulate the economy but they were not always successful. indeed the german economy was in many ways sup[erficially successful, although living standards and industrial production expanded these were often haphazard (especially living standards) and highly unstable....as the 1936 crisis demonstrates (the economy was being torn in two directions, guns and butter!). in many ways therefore the economy was not all that stable. It could be argued therefore that hitlers economic policies, far from contributing to a flourishing economy, actually contrinuted to its precarious nature (hitler was notoriously inept at deciding economic polciies, he sat on the fence for months during the 1936 crisis, according to ian kershaw, he had no patent solution.)

    also the figures which many use to demonstrate hitlers policies were successful are often questioned. like the soviet union figures were unreliable. the nazis claimed almost toal unemployment by 1939 and althought employment did drop from the highs of the depression, the trend was helped by such window dressing as removing women from the list of those unemployed.

    lastly, the recovery of the economy began before th nazis actually came to power, it is theorised by some scholars that this was why the support for the nazis actually dropped in the final election before they came/seized power.

    in fact the policies many credit the nazis with implementing and thus stimulating the eocnomy were not actually begun by hitler, the two most obvious are:
    the autobahns, as early as 1928 there were plans to create a nationa wide network of highways. it was only when they came to power that the nazis claimed this idea was theirs.

    Also the National Labour Service which provided jobs in things such as forresting, building works etc was started before hitler came to power.


    sorry, just had to clarify the picture as it is quite a myth that the nazis pulled germany out of the depression and that even though their other policies were despicable their economic ones should be applauded.
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    Didn't want to start yet another PC thread - I think this fits in here...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3888581.stm

    I don't understand this constant necessity to change everything. Some things are best left alone. What do you think about the proposals to scrap the honours system and replace it with a brand new PC awards system that will concentrate on awarding ethnic minorities and women more??? :rolleyes: It p's me off.
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    (Original post by Amb1)
    Didn't want to start yet another PC thread - I think this fits in here...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3888581.stm

    I don't understand this constant necessity to change everything. Some things are best left alone. What do you think about the proposals to scrap the honours system and replace it with a brand new PC awards system that will concentrate on awarding ethnic minorities and women more??? :rolleyes: It p's me off.
    I have no problem with ethnic minorities in the UK - I believe they are a positive influence in this country. What does get at me is the need for political correctness to be rammed down my throat at every possible opportunity.

    The UK is, and should always remain, a society based on Anglo-Saxon principals - unlike the US our nation was not founded through immigration so I see no need for us to radically alter our culture to suit the new "arrivals".

    Supposedly (CIA Factbook), ethnic minorities only make up 2.8 per cent of our population; undeniably a valuable percentage yet a very small one nonetheless.
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    (Original post by Just an LSE guy)
    Nazism - like all socialist movements - was anti-Western.
    wow that is so simplistic as to be meaningless.
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    (Original post by an Siarach)
    Hitler was a socialist! and he was also right wing.

    As has been pointed out, the nazis were 'national socialists'.
    obviously its more complex than that and im sure you realise that but i do see what you are trying to convey. fascism and national socialism (whether this can be called fascism is also open to debate) was a strange hybrid. indeed if one looks at the development of fascism in the early twentieth century then it is clear it was an attempt to reconcile the nation with socialist polciies (to an extent). they rejected marxist internationalism specifically, not socialism in total. this is the reaosn why many fascists were actually former socialists.
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    (Original post by Masonne)
    obviously its more complex than that and im sure you realise that but i do see what you are trying to convey. fascism and national socialism (whether this can be called fascism is also open to debate) was a strange hybrid. indeed if one looks at the development of fascism in the early twentieth century then it is clear it was an attempt to reconcile the nation with socialist polciies (to an extent). they rejected marxist internationalism specifically, not socialism in total. this is the reaosn why many fascists were actually former socialists.
    Fascism is a concept which is used in such a vague and fuzzy way that it has become almost meaningless.

    More importantly, it is neither an economic nor an elaborate political theory; in practice it is used as synonimous for right-wing authoritarian movement

    Historically, fascism as a movement developed in Italy from 1919 around the person of Mussolini, and its one defining characteri was personality cult. Mussolini was a leader of the Italian Socialist Party (expelled in 1913 for being too left-wing) who shifted progressively from the extreme left to the extreme right.

    He did not have an ideology, but of course he was strongly nationalistic and anti-communist, and had an enormous hunger for power
 
 
 
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