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    So who cares if a centrist labour party is not in power?
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    Tories are going to rip themselves to pieces after the referendum.
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Tories are going to rip themselves to pieces after the referendum.
    After? They are doing it now! There will be a challenge to Cameron after all this is over.
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    Let's just hope the next Tory party leader is more of a conservative than Cameron (e.g. Jacob Rees-Mogg).
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Let's just hope the next Tory party leader is more of a conservative than Cameron (e.g. Jacob Rees-Mogg).
    Indeed. The Torys could do so much more damage. BTW did you hear about Osborne's plans to retrospectively change the Ts and Cs of student loans in favour of the government?
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Indeed. The Torys could do so much more damage. BTW did you hear about Osborne's plans to retrospectively change the Ts and Cs of student loans in favour of the government?
    Are you referring to this: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/nov/25/student-loans-george-osborne-criticised-freezing-repayment-threshold ?
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    No. This

    http://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/20...tion-measures/
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Let's just hope the next Tory party leader is more of a conservative than Cameron (e.g. Jacob Rees-Mogg).
    I can't stand the Tory party but I'd be infinitely happier if Rees-Mogg was leading it. Seems like a good man.
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    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Let's just hope the next Tory party leader is more of a conservative than Cameron (e.g. Jacob Rees-Mogg).
    Rees-Mogg probably has less charisma than Van Rompuy. Most voters are in the centre, it makes sense to have your party there.
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    (Original post by TheThiefOfBagdad)
    I can't stand the Tory party but I'd be infinitely happier if Rees-Mogg was leading it. Seems like a good man.
    Indeed.
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    (Original post by TheThiefOfBagdad)
    I can't stand the Tory party but I'd be infinitely happier if Rees-Mogg was leading it. Seems like a good man.
    I would support that purely to see the Tories get trounced. Rees Mogg is certainly likeable- that said he's been caught out a few times doing dodgy things-

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...s-9923362.html
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    I would support that purely to see the Tories get trounced. Rees Mogg is certainly likeable- that said he's been caught out a few times doing dodgy things-

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...s-9923362.html
    Phew! For a second there I thought he'd raped Bagpuss!
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    If we vote to leave - Cameron resigns
    If we vote to remain - Cameron is forced out by a Vote of no confidence by his own MPs over the campaign to remain

    Either way he is going this year
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    So who cares if a centrist labour party is not in power?
    No they don't the tories are far right.
    The SNP occupy the centre ground

    http://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Tories are going to rip themselves to pieces after the referendum.
    Something big, worth waiting for, will happen in my opinion
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    After? They are doing it now! There will be a challenge to Cameron after all this is over.


    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...rendum-cartoon
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    After? They are doing it now! There will be a challenge to Cameron after all this is over.
    I'm not sure enough will have the resolve and stupidity if there's an In vote, especially with no clear leader to rally behind (Boris is not especially popular with the parliamentary party). That said it's a shame Cameron is not a stronger leader, a stronger leader might take the opportunity to defeat those who want him gone and then sack them,

    I personally don't much care if the leader is skeptic or phile but i do care about loyalty and that's why Boris has lost my vote (he doesn't really come off as if he wants out, he did it for his leadership ambition)..

    (Original post by Aceadria)
    Let's just hope the next Tory party leader is more of a conservative than Cameron (e.g. Jacob Rees-Mogg).
    I always had you pegged as a libertarian. I'm surprised you'd want the traditional wing of the party in power.

    I suspect the rise of Ukip has probably solidified the next leader being another moderate since most of the right of the party has left for the Kippers.

    (Original post by Davij038)
    I would support that purely to see the Tories get trounced. Rees Mogg is certainly likeable- that said he's been caught out a few times doing dodgy things-

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...s-9923362.html
    Would surely be a gift for Farron if we actually had a Corbyn-Mogg election. How awful for the country would that election be.
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    (Original post by ODES_PDES)
    Something big, worth waiting for, will happen in my opinion
    If i were a betting man i'd bet on the surprise being that Boris fails to make the run-off.

    The thought process here is that Tory MP's put two candidates to the party and with the way the referendum has panned out i think that May has played a blinder and bought her ticket to the run-off while a lot of the MP's who don't back her will want somebody from the back benches and probably quite radical (be that a libertarian or true conservative).
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I always had you pegged as a libertarian. I'm surprised you'd want the traditional wing of the party in power.

    Oh, don't get me wrong, that's also how I would identify myself (at least economically and socially). His views on certain key issues, such as taxation are often in line with libertarian principles. However, I like him primarily because his personality would most likely unite the party after the 'Brexit' vote (regardless of the outcome).

    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I suspect the rise of Ukip has probably solidified the next leader being another moderate since most of the right of the party has left for the Kippers.
    Indeed. Stephen Crabb, perhaps? http://capx.co/meet-stephen-crabb-the-next-tory-leader/
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    (Original post by ChaoticButterfly)
    So who cares if a centrist labour party is not in power?
    Cameron is a Blair Reincarnation- he has copied everything which worked well for Blair, but has had to be a bit further right
 
 
 
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