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    VA141 – Voting Review Amendment (Second Reading)
    Proposed: Nigel Farage MEP
    Seconded: Jammy Duel, EricAteYou, Adam9317, Mobbsy 91

    Part I: Guidance Document Amendment

    Add to the Guidance Document under MP Activity & Voting Reviews, 3.1a MP Seat Allocation

    1) The Speaker shall allocate each MP a seat number.
    2) Party leaders have until the first Division Lobby results are announced at the start of a new term to change the seat number allocated to their MPs.
    3) The Speaker shall conduct voting reviews in accordance with the section above.
    4) MPs are not allowed to switch from one seat number to another seat number unless;
    a. a period of four weeks has passed
    b. the member is a proxy MP who has not been an MP for more than four consecutive weeks before becoming a proxy MP, unless a period of four weeks has passed since last serving as an MP for four consecutive weeks. For the purposes of this bill the election period does not count towards those four weeks of not being an MP.


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    The second section has been removed, and the wording simplified but a worked example is below to make it clear for any members unsure.

    A situation allowed would be where a party has three MPs; A, B, and C, MP B is away so a fourth member becomes a proxy MP for two weeks for MP B, and immediately after becomes a proxy MP for MP C. A situation not allowed would be where a party has three MPs; A, B, and C, MP B is away so MP A stops being an MP to allow a member to take MP A's seat while the member who was MP A becomes a proxy for MP B; the ex-MP A member could only become a proxy if four weeks had passed since resigning as MP A.
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    I maintain that the four weeks is too short.
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    In terms of how I am to interpret this, 4a doesn't say since what a period of four weeks needs to have passed.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    In terms of how I am to interpret this, 4a doesn't say since what a period of four weeks needs to have passed.
    It is meant to be four weeks must pass from when a member who leaves as an MP in one seat can become an MP in another seat, for instance, TDA would have to wait four weeks before becoming an MP is the new seat number he allocated himself after leaving his old seat number.
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    (Original post by Nigel Farage MEP)
    It is meant to be four weeks must pass from when a member who leaves as an MP in one seat can become an MP in another seat, for instance, TDA would have to wait four week before becoming an MP is the new seat number he allocated himself.
    OK.

    And if, rather that switching, we have this situation:
    MP A leaves seat 1, replaced by MP B
    then a week later:
    MP C leaves seat 2, replaced by MP A

    If MP A goes into seat 2, they contravene this. If MP A goes back into seat 1, MP B has to go into seat 2, and contravenes this.

    This seems like a clunky way of prohibiting people becoming an MP again for 4 weeks after leaving their seat.
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    (Original post by Saracen's Fez)
    OK.

    And if, rather that switching, we have this situation:
    MP A leaves seat 1, replaced by MP B
    then a week later:
    MP C leaves seat 2, replaced by MP A

    If MP A goes into seat 2, they contravene this. If MP A goes back into seat 1, MP B has to go into seat 2, and contravenes this.

    This seems like a clunky way of prohibiting people becoming an MP again for 4 weeks after leaving their seat.
    Yes, it is clunky, but there is an allowance in 4(b) for members to immediately switch from one seat to another seat if the member is a proxy MP meeting the conditions in 4(b).
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    Not entirely convinced. Not necessarily against.

    I'll think about it.
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    I don't really give a fly. We all know that claims of thriving Socialist et al. membership are just silly stories and if they need to switch seats in order to keep them, it just adds to their own embarrassment. I believe that this can be bypassed anyway… So yeah, meh.
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    Ayes to the right: 15
    Noes to the left: 10
    Abstentions: 19

    The Ayes have it! The Ayes have it! Unlock!

    Turnout: 88%

    This will go into the GD as and when I get the power to put it in there.
 
 
 
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