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Are we bound to be taken over by the first sentient machine we create?
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There is a risk

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Not inevitable, but possible.. Then again, if we recreate THE Ulton, I may allow to be taken over.
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Are we bound to be taken over by the first sentient machine we create?
Mate, Skynet > Ultron.

But if Skynet can get rid of all these f**ktards on instagram, then long live Skynet lol
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Mate, Skynet > Ultron.

But if Skynet can get rid of all these f**ktards on instagram, then long live Skynet lol
There is a real security company called Skynet

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Nope, only a natural intelligence ie at this time humans' can write code that ALL computers function.
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Are we bound to be taken over by the first sentient machine we create?
smartphones have already enslaved millions of young people
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Nope, only a natural intelligence ie at this time humans' can write code that ALL computers function.
Yes but an ai that mirrors a human brain and that can "evolve" would eventually be superior to any human brain
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I don't believe that is possible.. with computers, but maybe with a organic brain ie cloning, if we could ever programme a brain then anything could happen!
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Yes but an ai that mirrors a human brain and that can "evolve" would eventually be superior to any human brain
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I don't believe that is possible.. with computers, but maybe with a organic brain ie cloning, if we could ever programme a brain then anything could happen!
We're getting ever closer to creating AI

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smartphones have already enslaved millions of young people
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Artificial Intelligence - will never be possible unless an organic component is used - well that's my limited common sense thinking. Of course I could be wrong.. be interesting to know
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Artificial Intelligence - will never be possible unless an organic component is used - well that's my limited common sense thinking. Of course I could be wrong.. be interesting to know
The intelligence aspect is completely unrelated to the biological side of things - eventually we will be able to create inorganic matter that can learn, like we learn, and that will be artificial intelligence. The kind that evolves must have organic matter which, by definition, means that it isn't artificial. That is my understanding.

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I guess, AI using code that is already available to create random code, is like evolution, so you would assume AI evolving would be possible. It would take a great deal of good luck for random code to generate into a new working command. And the speed of these processes would need to be extremely fast to find a combination that functions.

A new randomly generated command would therefor cause something new to happen and this could be classed as AI?

The problem with computers though is that they have no emotions or more specifically, chemicals that cause emotions. Without this one element, how would a machine or computer programme make sense of this new function? It wouldn't understand this new function or what it could be used for? It would use this new function and not get any reaction or understand reactions to know if it was a useful new function? Also AI can't feel pain.. or feel any emotion that shapes many animals learning throughout life..

So although limited AI might be possible.. it will never be more advanced than humans or even a rat to be fair!
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(Original post by Iknowbest)
I guess, AI using code that is already available to create random code, is like evolution, so you would assume AI evolving would be possible. It would take a great deal of good luck for random code to generate into a new working command. And the speed of these processes would need to be extremely fast to find a combination that functions.

A new randomly generated command would therefor cause something new to happen and this could be classed as AI?

The problem with computers though is that they have no emotions or more specifically, chemicals that cause emotions. Without this one element, how would a machine or computer programme make sense of this new function? It wouldn't understand this new function or what it could be used for? It would use this new function and not get any reaction or understand reactions to know if it was a useful new function? Also AI can't feel pain.. or feel any emotion that shapes many animals learning throughout life..

So although limited AI might be possible.. it will never be more advanced than humans or even a rat to be fair!
You make good points, but if you look at how much technology has advanced in the last 30 years, you'll see it's impossible to predict.

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Watch some Elon Musk + Bill Gates talks on the topic. They certainly think there's a very real risk.
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I agree it has been a massive progress since the 1st simple codes.. and you are right, you just never know what might happen. Scary thought if computers ever did become more advanced than us!
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You make good points, but if you look at how much technology has advanced in the last 30 years, you'll see it's impossible to predict.

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Eliezer Yudkowsky has some good literature around this topic. It's difficult to say but it's definitely possible if we aren't extremely careful. The idea of a recursive intelligence is pretty formidable. But setting standards and implementing intrinsic human values is also possible.
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I am sure these people promote the possibility of AI.. they have made billions in their fields and want to keep people interested in this. I am sure computer technology is far more advanced than we are allowed to purchase.. and they role upgrades out periodically to maximize profits.. when in reality they could already sell a Tablet or Battery with a lot more power and speed that we will have to wait years to be released!!

i still feel it is impossible for computers to become more advanced than a human in how we learn and feel things.. emotions are the key here.. it is what make us human.
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Watch some Elon Musk + Bill Gates talks on the topic. They certainly think there's a very real risk.
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Eliezer Yudkowsky is a researcher of AI - so I guess he has some great info.. all positive no doubt and enough to gain enough funding he requires to carry on his research.. but again I have to say, without reading much information, at this stage, just using common sense alone, it is impossible without a Organic brain of some kind.. and that can use the chemicals required to be actually Intelligent independently and evolve to a more advanced level.

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Eliezer Yudkowsky has some good literature around this topic. It's difficult to say but it's definitely possible if we aren't extremely careful. The idea of a recursive intelligence is pretty formidable. But setting standards and implementing intrinsic human values is also possible.
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