Martin Lewis's opinion of Brexit
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the trouble is only about 0.003% of the people who are voting have the necessary level of economic literacy to make the correct call....
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the trouble is only about 0.003% of the people who are voting have the necessary level of economic literacy to make the correct call....
the trouble is only about 0.003% of the people who are voting have the necessary level of economic literacy to make the correct call....
Ruth Lea, I'm looking at you.
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i came across this intelligent website just now:
http://openeurope.org.uk
i came across this intelligent website just now:
http://openeurope.org.uk
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Why?
Why?
And second, how can you reduce the situation to this one point?
Thirdly, this is simply emotional pulling. Not to mention those that actually do think things are so terrible under the EU, probably Brexiters anyway.
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First of all why should you leave even if you think things are already quite bad?
And second, how can you reduce the situation to this one point?
Thirdly, this is simply emotional pulling. Not to mention those that actually do think things are so terrible under the EU, probably Brexiters anyway.
First of all why should you leave even if you think things are already quite bad?
And second, how can you reduce the situation to this one point?
Thirdly, this is simply emotional pulling. Not to mention those that actually do think things are so terrible under the EU, probably Brexiters anyway.
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First of all why should you leave even if you think things are already quite bad?
First of all why should you leave even if you think things are already quite bad?
And second, how can you reduce the situation to this one point?
Thirdly, this is simply emotional pulling. Not to mention those that actually do think things are so terrible under the EU, probably Brexiters anyway.
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(Original post by jneill)
Because you think leaving will improve things eventually (which it might, but might not... his point is that voting Leave is still a risky choice).
Almost like the referendum reduces it to a Remain/Leave binary choice. Yes I can see that's a problem...
Emotion is good. His point is there are few facts anyway.
Because you think leaving will improve things eventually (which it might, but might not... his point is that voting Leave is still a risky choice).
Almost like the referendum reduces it to a Remain/Leave binary choice. Yes I can see that's a problem...
Emotion is good. His point is there are few facts anyway.
Indeed.
No, it's not, it makes people stupid. Also, no, there many facts, it's just that there are also so many false ones being said and context left out of others.
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(Original post by StrangeBanana)
he prefaces the diagram with "looking only from an economic view,"
he prefaces the diagram with "looking only from an economic view,"
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No, it's not, it makes people stupid. Also, no, there many facts, it's just that there are also so many false ones being said and context left out of others.
No, it's not, it makes people stupid. Also, no, there many facts, it's just that there are also so many false ones being said and context left out of others.

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If everyone is apathetic (an emotion) they won't vote. Oh hold on, that means we Remain. Which would be good
If everyone is apathetic (an emotion) they won't vote. Oh hold on, that means we Remain. Which would be good

These ones are what sway people.
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Well not in OP, and even then it is silly to try and look at every point individually.
Well not in OP, and even then it is silly to try and look at every point individually.
What do you even mean by "every point individually"? It's just one sign, addressing (imo) the most important part of the debate - the economy.
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Why is it silly? Surely that's the only honest way to make a decision?
What do you even mean by "every point individually"? It's just one sign, addressing (imo) the most important part of the debate - the economy.
Why is it silly? Surely that's the only honest way to make a decision?
What do you even mean by "every point individually"? It's just one sign, addressing (imo) the most important part of the debate - the economy.
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Because that assumes every issue is independent.
Because that assumes every issue is independent.
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Huh? You can look at each point individually while acknowledging the connections between them.
Huh? You can look at each point individually while acknowledging the connections between them.
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Where in either of those statements in the sign in the OP do you see any acknowledgement of other issues?
Where in either of those statements in the sign in the OP do you see any acknowledgement of other issues?
Ultimately mate this is a silly argument, and you know it. You can't expect every single statement to address all the issues. Any statement that tried to would just be vague and meaningless - and almost certainly playing to emotion, something you claim to abhor.
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