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    HI guys I was just thinking about this issue after debating it with a friend and thought id get others opinions on it. note this only applies for physics, maths and chemistry as i have no other experience/other peoples experiences on other subjects (and also perhaps not applying to cambridge/oxford/imperial)

    Note I am using the ratio of work to social time instead of actual hours as there is alot more free time at uni than A-levels for most people

    My friend said its normal for people to get lower % in uni exams etc because its harder (it is of course harder)

    but i said its not because of the content being harder as this is true as you progress to any stage of education but because at uni the ratio of effective work to social they put in is alot less in the work bit compared to at A-level (which is what I have seen from all my friends, the ones that did great just continued their work ethic, the others didnt) so they will on the whole do worse (though i know more time doesnt equal higher marks all the time but if you put in more effective work i do believe on the whole it does increase your chance of doing better).

    He disagreed but then i said well I put in a lot less effective work into semester 1 and did okay (60-65%), but then when in semester 2 I did roughly the same ratio of social to effective work time as I did at A-level my coursework grades shot up (and in mid term tests I got 85%ish and in my end of semester 2 exams I will have gotten between 80-90%), then I also said the reason he doesnt do as well as he used to was because he on the whole doesnt actually do that much work (he does less than most people I know do and he does alot less than he did at a-level) (he got A*AB at A-level but gets 50-60% now at uni)

    What are your guys opinions and experiences on this? Curious as on the whole for my friendship group this is the trend that is true, my friends who do worse at uni just put less work in compared to social time
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    I think it's pretty obvious that those who spend most of their time socialising do worse than those who spend more time getting work done. It's important to have a good balance. Time studying doesn't increase grades, but like you said, time spent studying effectively does. I tend to find that many of my friends who go out and socialise more than they probably should are also those people who don't know how to study effectively. Those who spend more time studying have been able to hone their study skills and learn how to study effectively and therefore reduce the time required.

    For reference, I do work 4 (sometimes 5) days per week and consistently get first class grades. I have friends who spent their first two years going out all the time who are now trying to get good grades, those people do some form of studying every single day of the week and still don't get the grades they want. They just haven't learned how to study properly and it's coming back to bite them.
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    Lol I could have done a lot better if I actually put the effort into my first year of uni.
    A levels are not harder but I feel they are more intense.
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    The freedom in uni makes you less motivated to do work (obviously this may not be the case for everyone) hence why people get lower grades
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    (Original post by GoingToBurst)
    I think it's pretty obvious that those who spend most of their time socialising do worse than those who spend more time getting work done. It's important to have a good balance. Time studying doesn't increase grades, but like you said, time spent studying effectively does. I tend to find that many of my friends who go out and socialise more than they probably should are also those people who don't know how to study effectively. Those who spend more time studying have been able to hone their study skills and learn how to study effectively and therefore reduce the time required.

    For reference, I do work 4 (sometimes 5) days per week and consistently get first class grades. I have friends who spent their first two years going out all the time who are now trying to get good grades, those people do some form of studying every single day of the week and still don't get the grades they want. They just haven't learned how to study properly and it's coming back to bite them.
    Agreed.
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    I need help pray for me... Just joking good luck on your exams
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    (Original post by Konahagakure)
    The freedom in uni makes you less motivated to do work (obviously this may not be the case for everyone) hence why people get lower grades
    I've always found this strange because as while I enjoy societies, clubbing etc I chose a subject i love to study so it's less like work and more like a hobby (maybe that's because I'm a nerd at heart aha)

    I just can't see why people would study something to just come to uni to party etc
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    (Original post by madmadmax321)
    I've always found this strange because as while I enjoy societies, clubbing etc I chose a subject i love to study so it's less like work and more like a hobby (maybe that's because I'm a nerd at heart aha)

    I just can't see why people would study something to just come to uni to party etc
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    Neither do I. I think when it comes to these things you've many factors for example you've got:

    Those that don't take the course seriously (excessive partygoers, non attendees to lectures, ones that watch movies during lectures...etc)

    And those that are lazy (which can still be all the ones I mentioned)

    Kind of an overlap between the two and I was the latter.
    The only time I was really motivated was for assignments and the week before my exams....
    Still managed to get firsts and 2:1s in my modules
    But you've got a point.
    At the end of the day if you mess about in uni and find yourself with a 3rd class or lower at the end of 3rd year.....well sorry you've just wasted 3 years of your life and £27000+
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    (Original post by madmadmax321)
    I've always found this strange because as while I enjoy societies, clubbing etc I chose a subject i love to study so it's less like work and more like a hobby (maybe that's because I'm a nerd at heart aha)

    I just can't see why people would study something to just come to uni to party etc
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    Just hoping my second won't be like this one

    Many sacrifices had to be made
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    I'd say the workload is higher on most weeks jusy out of the nature of being in a school where you can't just not do work or not go to class. In terms of maximum workload uni is a lot higher though and it evens out the overall. I'd say I've done 8x 60 hour+ weeks this year and that's slightly low compared to most people on my course, and I've had times where I would work the same amount in 2 or 3 days as I would an entire week at A level (yet get a heck of a lot more done)
 
 
 
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