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Hello,

I'm currently in my final year of an MEng Electrical and Electronic Engineering degree.
One of my modules is a 100% coursework module. It is worth 15 credits of the year. I am pretty sure I have failed this module. The test (counted as coursework) did not go well, and the coursework hand-in was not good.
What would be the likely scenario? I have read that resits are not available for final year modules. I did not submit mitigating circumstances.
I achieved 68% in my third year. 67% in my second year.

My grades this year are:
40 credit (Major Team Project/dissertation): predicted to be between 65% and 70%
20 credit: 67%
15 credit: 63%
15 credit: 63%
15 credit: predicted 67
15 credit: (Module I think I've failed)
The MEng course is split 50/50 between third and fourth year (grades-wise).

I calculated that even if I were to get 0 for this module I would still comfortably achieve a 2:1. The handbook states if I get at least 40% I can get compensated credits.
However I am worried that I have not achieved 40%. I am due to graduate in July, and I am worried that I will not graduate, or I will achieve a lesser award.

Any info would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Sam
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(Original post by Shlicktommy)
Hello,

I'm currently in my final year of an MEng Electrical and Electronic Engineering degree.
One of my modules is a 100% coursework module. It is worth 15 credits of the year. I am pretty sure I have failed this module. The test (counted as coursework) did not go well, and the coursework hand-in was not good.
What would be the likely scenario? I have read that resits are not available for final year modules. I did not submit mitigating circumstances.
I achieved 68% in my third year. 67% in my second year.

My grades this year are:
40 credit (Major Team Project/dissertation): predicted to be between 65% and 70%
20 credit: 67%
15 credit: 63%
15 credit: 63%
15 credit: predicted 67
15 credit: (Module I think I've failed)
The MEng course is split 50/50 between third and fourth year (grades-wise).

I calculated that even if I were to get 0 for this module I would still comfortably achieve a 2:1. The handbook states if I get at least 40% I can get compensated credits.
However I am worried that I have not achieved 40%. I am due to graduate in July, and I am worried that I will not graduate, or I will achieve a lesser award.

Any info would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Sam
you will need to ask your department about this as every uni wil have a different policy

For mine for example you can fail 20 credits per year and still graduate will honours
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For mine for example you can fail 20 credits per year and still graduate will honours
Damn.

I think at my uni you have to pass all modules to graduate with honours
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Damn.

I think at my uni you have to pass all modules to graduate with honours
Granted if you failed 20 credits it'd drag your grade down a fair bit aha its still counted in the overall percentage just you're allowed to get less than 40

All my friends unis allow this so yours may too!

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If your grade is below the compensation threshold then you will most likely have to re-sit the paper.
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Damn.

I think at my uni you have to pass all modules to graduate with honours
Yeah, this varies from uni to uni. At Bath you gotta pass everything through the first 2 or 3 years (depending upon whether you do BEng or MEng), then in the final year they don't do resit exams, so the mark you get is the one that sticks for your average. On a positive note, this means everyone graduates together in the summer. I failed a couple of exams in my final year, so I was really nervous how my degree cert would be, but it turned out just fine in the end (2.1 hons).
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Yeah, this varies from uni to uni. At Bath you gotta pass everything through the first 2 or 3 years (depending upon whether you do BEng or MEng), then in the final year they don't do resit exams, so the mark you get is the one that sticks for your average. On a positive note, this means everyone graduates together in the summer. I failed a couple of exams in my final year, so I was really nervous how my degree cert would be, but it turned out just fine in the end (2.1 hons).
Interesting, that's pretty much similar to my uni (with regards to passing everything to progress) but there's a twist at mine. My course handbook says if you fail any modules in the final year you can be given condoned credits however if this happens then you will graduate with an un-accredited MSci (hons) Engineering degree due to accreditation rules apparently. It also says should this scenario happen if the candidate did not need condoned credits for their BEng award they will be given the option to graduate with the accredited BEng rather than the un-accredited MSci.

That's actually scared me now

How did you find the final years (3rd and 4th) in terms of difficulty? I start my 3rd year in September.
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(Original post by ahpadt)
Yeah, this varies from uni to uni. At Bath you gotta pass everything through the first 2 or 3 years (depending upon whether you do BEng or MEng), then in the final year they don't do resit exams, so the mark you get is the one that sticks for your average. On a positive note, this means everyone graduates together in the summer. I failed a couple of exams in my final year, so I was really nervous how my degree cert would be, but it turned out just fine in the end (2.1 hons).
Are you sure there is no compensation threshold? Usually you have a pass mark of say 40% or 50% in the final year and a compensation threshold of about 30%. If you fail but your mark is still above 30% you can still graduate provided the average of your final year modules is over the pass mark. What if someone at Bath gets 0% or 1% in a module then? They can't just award him/her those credits and put that 0% or 1% on the certificate, there has to be some kind of compensation threshold.
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How did you find the final years (3rd and 4th) in terms of difficulty? I start my 3rd year in September.
Y3 was okay. Y4 exams were proper hard.

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Are you sure there is no compensation threshold? Usually you have a pass mark of say 40% or 50% in the final year and a compensation threshold of about 30%. If you fail but your mark is still above 30% you can still graduate provided the average of your final year modules is over the pass mark. What if someone at Bath gets 0% or 1% in a module then? They can't just award him/her those credits and put that 0% or 1% on the certificate, there has to be some kind of compensation threshold.
Good point. Don't actually know. My 30-something % exams were accepted atleast. :P
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At mine if you fail 4th year you get demoted to 3rd year results (i.e BEng)
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Y3 was okay. Y4 exams were proper hard.
Ahahaha great
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Interesting, that's pretty much similar to my uni (with regards to passing everything to progress) but there's a twist at mine. My course handbook says if you fail any modules in the final year you can be given condoned credits however if this happens then you will graduate with an un-accredited MSci (hons) Engineering degree due to accreditation rules apparently. It also says should this scenario happen if the candidate did not need condoned credits for their BEng award they will be given the option to graduate with the accredited BEng rather than the un-accredited MSci.
Huh, that's interesting. Accreditation shouldn't rely on all your last year modules, especially not in your masters year as you would've fulfilled most if not all requirements in third year.
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Huh, that's interesting. Accreditation shouldn't rely on all your last year modules, especially not in your masters year as you would've fulfilled most if not all requirements in third year.
I think that applies to marks significantly less than the threshold pass mark. In final year the threshold pass mark is 50% (and 40% for all other 3 years). So i'm assuming if one failed say you got 45% but did really well in your other modules then you would get compensation and still graduate with a MEng (hons).

Edit: With regards to your last point about full-fulling requirements in the third year this will depend on the course structure which is university dependent!
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I think that applies to marks significantly less than the threshold pass mark. In final year the threshold pass mark is 50% (and 40% for all other 3 years). So i'm assuming if one failed say you got 45% but did really well in your other modules then you would get compensation and still graduate with a MEng (hons).

Edit: With regards to your last point about full-fulling requirements in the third year this will depend on the course structure which is university dependent!
Ah ok.

I suppose, however at my uni we only have 110 credits associated with accreditation (could be as low as 60 required) where 50 (30) of those are in 3rd year and none are in 4th so I find it difficult to believe that there are universities where the entirety or majority of 4th year counts towards accreditation.
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