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    Hi to you all,

    First let me thank all of you for building such a great forum which is so much help !

    I wanted to ask to the french people or whoever knows what I'm talking about what the oxbridge colleges and the general universities in the UK think about the french examinations on the french baccalaureate.
    I just received my grades and they are as followed : 12/20 for the written part(good cause I suck at this usually) and 4/20(big accident , didn't have a good text , wasn't lucky on this one...)

    Can anyone tell me if these grades really matter , cause I am going to apply to uni in september and these will be the only grades that they will see on my file, I don't want them to ruin my chances .I chose:

    Cambridge
    UCL
    LSE
    Warwick
    Imperial College business school
    King's college(not sure about this one)

    If it helps here are my extra curricular activities:

    -President of the debate club of my school
    -won an excellence award at harvard model congress europe
    -amnesty international member
    -community work with the elderly

    I'm thinking of applying for SPS or economics and law for King's college.

    Thanks !
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    (Original post by totalnatal)
    Hi to you all,

    First let me thank all of you for building such a great forum which is so much help !

    I wanted to ask to the french people or whoever knows what I'm talking about what the oxbridge colleges and the general universities in the UK think about the french examinations on the french baccalaureate.
    I just received my grades and they are as followed : 12/20 for the written part(good cause I suck at this usually) and 4/20(big accident , didn't have a good text , wasn't lucky on this one...)

    Can anyone tell me if these grades really matter , cause I am going to apply to uni in september and these will be the only grades that they will see on my file, I don't want them to ruin my chances .I chose:

    Cambridge
    UCL
    LSE
    Warwick
    Imperial College business school
    King's college(not sure about this one)

    If it helps here are my extra curricular activities:

    -President of the debate club of my school
    -won an excellence award at harvard model congress europe
    -amnesty international member
    -community work with the elderly

    I'm thinking of applying for SPS or economics and law for King's college.

    Thanks !
    I'm half-french, and studied in France up til seconde, so I can fill you in.
    Basically, Oxbridge only really look at candidates predicted a mention TB, and then normally require an average of about 18. C'est fou, non?
    So the bottom answer to your question is no, UNLESS you are in section S and have a really good reason for getting 4 in the oral exam. If you are in ES or L, forget it sorry!
    What you must understand is that the bac is not well understood in the UK. They tend to demand much higher grades from Bac students than from ordinary UK students. Certainly a mention would be required for all the universities you listed above. If I were you I would sit the oral again and hope for a better grade (you can only do better)
    Hope this helps.
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    I am in section S and am doing the international option of the french bac so I am really not made for french cause I study some courses in english and i am a scientific...

    SOrry mate , it ain't possible for me to sit the oral again.I don't care if i need a mention , I know i can get one easily cause the international option if coefficient 16 and I 've got an average of about 15...Imagine I get that grade + good grades in science and I've got at least mention bien.
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    (Original post by totalnatal)
    I am in section S and am doing the international option of the french bac so I am really not made for french cause I study some courses in english and i am a scientific...

    SOrry mate , it ain't possible for me to sit the oral again.I don't care if i need a mention , I know i can get one easily cause the international option if coefficient 16 and I 've got an average of about 15...Imagine I get that grade + good grades in science and I've got at least mention bien.
    Well then if I were you, I wouldn't bother putting your french bac scores on the UCAS form. Just list what you got in the brevet
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    (Original post by Eggy Hog)
    Well then if I were you, I wouldn't bother putting your french bac scores on the UCAS form. Just list what you got in the brevet
    But , isn't like illegal not to put them on the UCAS form ?I mean they must be used to receiving french grades for the bac, it's not goona look good if I don't put them in...
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    (Original post by totalnatal)
    But , isn't like illegal not to put them on the UCAS form ?I mean they must be used to receiving french grades for the bac, it's not goona look good if I don't put them in...
    I know people who didn't bother, and got away with it.
    It's up to you really ...
    Certainly, the french bac is not a free standing exam in its own right, is it?
    People in the UK system need not list their AS levels results if they are continuing the subject in upper sixth.
    The same system would apply with the french bac I would assume - ie you wouldn't need to list your results until you had sat all your Terminal exams as well.
    Why don't you email UCAS, they are undoubtedly better informed than I.
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    (Original post by Eggy Hog)
    I know people who didn't bother, and got away with it.
    It's up to you really ...
    Certainly, the french bac is not a free standing exam in its own right, is it?
    People in the UK system need not list their AS levels results if they are continuing the subject in upper sixth.
    The same system would apply with the french bac I would assume - ie you wouldn't need to list your results until you had sat all your Terminal exams as well.
    Why don't you email UCAS, they are undoubtedly better informed than I.
    Good idea , I'll email UCAS.

    Thanks for the help man
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    (Original post by Eggy Hog)
    I know people who didn't bother, and got away with it.
    It's up to you really ...
    Certainly, the french bac is not a free standing exam in its own right, is it?
    People in the UK system need not list their AS levels results if they are continuing the subject in upper sixth.
    The same system would apply with the french bac I would assume - ie you wouldn't need to list your results until you had sat all your Terminal exams as well.
    Why don't you email UCAS, they are undoubtedly better informed than I.
    You have to tell Cambridge your A/S grades actually.

    4/20 sounds pretty **** tbh.
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    (Original post by Tek)
    You have to tell Cambridge your A/S grades actually.

    4/20 sounds pretty **** tbh.
    I know it looks bad , but this is just one subject and it is the least important one...I've still got the major subjects like bio , physics-chemistry , maths , international option litterature and geography...I think I'll get the chance to show who I really am at the interview if I am given the chance to have one.
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    (Original post by Tek)
    You have to tell Cambridge your A/S grades actually.
    Well you don't have to state them on your UCAS form, as many schools, including mine do not declare the results after the first year in 6th form as this allows you to resit a single module rather than the entire AS in your 2nd year.

    Generally however, most (not all) colleges will send you a form once they have received your application asking you to state your AS Grades and mention whether you are resitting them etc.
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    (Original post by Hoofbeat)
    Well you don't have to state them on your UCAS form, as many schools, including mine do not declare the results after the first year in 6th form as this allows you to resit a single module rather than the entire AS in your 2nd year.

    Generally however, most (not all) colleges will send you a form once they have received your application asking you to state your AS Grades and mention whether you are resitting them etc.
    Thank you for managing to rewrite my neat 9 word sentence in 2 long paragraphs. It was very useful - why use nine words to explain something, when you can use 78?
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    (Original post by Tek)
    Thank you for managing to rewrite my neat 9 word sentence in 2 long paragraphs. It was very useful - why use nine words to explain something, when you can use 78?
    Because your nine words weren't very clear, Tek dear, whereas Hoofbeat explained the situation properly Watch that blood pressure, eh...
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    (Original post by MadNatSci)
    Because your nine words weren't very clear, Tek dear, whereas Hoofbeat explained the situation properly Watch that blood pressure, eh...
    Yes, you're right, if you couldn't understand what my nine words implied then perhaps you did need a lengthy explanation. Perhaps, too, you also have to be read bedtime stories every night, and perhaps too you have not yet learned to count money, or spell your name.
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    (Original post by Tek)
    You have to tell Cambridge your A/S grades actually.
    Only if you've cashed them in. Cos I got as far as the form when applying to Cambridge. My school doesnt let you cash them in, even if you get really good grades. They only ask for those that have been certificated and then you have to put down all those that you expect to receive grades in at the end of the Upper 6th.

    As for the French Bac, I'm not sure whether that would count, especially if French is being continued beyond 1er. But I would imagine that final grades, staff reports would all require an expectation of Très Bien (is that 16 in the Bac?), certainly by Cambridge. For some of the others you might get away with Bien.
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    (Original post by Tek)
    Yes, you're right, if you couldn't understand what my nine words implied then perhaps you did need a lengthy explanation. Perhaps, too, you also have to be read bedtime stories every night, and perhaps too you have not yet learned to count money, or spell your name.
    Gosh someones in a bad mood :eek:

    I was only trying to clarify the situation for people who do not know the application proceedure in detail, so there's no need to jump down my throat, I wasn't meaning to imply that you didn't know what you were talking about. I just thought that your phrasing implied that ALL colleges require your AS grades, whereas this is only generally the case and often they only find out your marks you do NOT have to state them on your UCAS form.

    I hope this helps TotalNatal
 
 
 

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