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    I know that this is very subjective, but only having 3 choices is killing me haha! Has anyone done an MFL PGCE and highly recommend it? I also want to go abroad afterwards and either teach English or foreign languages. I am also aware I need to do an SKE course in French (I study German, economics and Dutch at uni) and for some you need prior knowledge (UCL for example) and others not (like York said the fact that I had studied it year 7-9 was adequate).

    Any recommendations or personal experiences you'd like to share?
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    I'm not able to give a recommendation on a German PGCE (my programme was for Spanish and French), however, I will point out the difficulties you'll have in completing a SKE in French if you've not even got a GCSE in it. To complete a SKE with just Year 7-9 French (which is very low level) will mean you'll have to complete a full-time SKE course and I struggle to see how you would be able to complete this as part of your course. Even if you complete it, the fact that you hold an SKE in French but no GCSE/A-Level will likely restrict you to only teaching KS3 French and there are very few schools who will want that. Combine this with the fact that the number of students studying German is decreasing every year and you might have trouble finding a job once you complete the course.

    This is just something to consider - PGCE providers will of course paint a rosy picture concerning recruitment for MFL but the reality is that you need to be able to teach two languages to KS4 and hold the qualifications to do this and an SKE without a GCSE may not allow this.
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    I'm not able to give a recommendation on a German PGCE (my programme was for Spanish and French), however, I will point out the difficulties you'll have in completing a SKE in French if you've not even got a GCSE in it. To complete a SKE with just Year 7-9 French (which is very low level) will mean you'll have to complete a full-time SKE course and I struggle to see how you would be able to complete this as part of your course. Even if you complete it, the fact that you hold an SKE in French but no GCSE/A-Level will likely restrict you to only teaching KS3 French and there are very few schools who will want that. Combine this with the fact that the number of students studying German is decreasing every year and you might have trouble finding a job once you complete the course.

    This is just something to consider - PGCE providers will of course paint a rosy picture concerning recruitment for MFL but the reality is that you need to be able to teach two languages to KS4 and hold the qualifications to do this and an SKE without a GCSE may not allow this.
    Thank you for the advice! It's actually really disappointing that German numbers are declining. As an Ambassador for UK-German Connection I was actually approached by the DfE for becoming a German teacher and they seemed to think it was fine... alas that reallllyyyy doesn't seem to be the case Maybe I need to wait a bit before doing it and hope that times get better :'(
    How are you finding the PGCE? Did you already have two langauges at degree level?
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    (Original post by anna__)
    I know that this is very subjective, but only having 3 choices is killing me haha! Has anyone done an MFL PGCE and highly recommend it? I also want to go abroad afterwards and either teach English or foreign languages. I am also aware I need to do an SKE course in French (I study German, economics and Dutch at uni) and for some you need prior knowledge (UCL for example) and others not (like York said the fact that I had studied it year 7-9 was adequate).

    Any recommendations or personal experiences you'd like to share?
    Hi,

    I would definitely recommend doing an SKE course in either French or Spanish as sadly German is in decline in a lot of schools so recruitment is lower.

    The other poster is right that after the SKE your French still wouldn't be of a standard to confidently teach above KS3. But it should still be of a sufficient standard to have a much better chance of getting a job, in a school which offers both French and German and requires a German specialist for GCSE. You would be able to teach Y7-9 French and Y7-11 (or above if you get a job in a school with a 6th form) German.

    I have a French and History degree, AS-Level German and GCSE Spanish. I did an SKE course in Spanish in the summer before my PGCE, and also volunteered on an archaeological dig in Spain to improve my spoken fluency. I now teach French up to GCSE and Spanish at KS3 and it's not a problem. My department has Spanish specialists who want the Y10 and 11 groups and wouldn't be confident teaching top set Y11 French either, so it works out fine.

    I think the previous poster paints an overly bleak picture of German. Yes it is in decline. Yes, there are more schools offering French / Spanish than German. But that doesn't mean there are no opportunities with German - you just have to be prepared to cast your net wider and be willing to have a longer commute or move for a job. The Germanists I know from my PGCE and SKE course did all get jobs in the end.
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    (Original post by myrtille)
    Hi,

    I would definitely recommend doing an SKE course in either French or Spanish as sadly German is in decline in a lot of schools so recruitment is lower.

    The other poster is right that after the SKE your French still wouldn't be of a standard to confidently teach above KS3. But it should still be of a sufficient standard to have a much better chance of getting a job, in a school which offers both French and German and requires a German specialist for GCSE. You would be able to teach Y7-9 French and Y7-11 (or above if you get a job in a school with a 6th form) German.

    I have a French and History degree, AS-Level German and GCSE Spanish. I did an SKE course in Spanish in the summer before my PGCE, and also volunteered on an archaeological dig in Spain to improve my spoken fluency. I now teach French up to GCSE and Spanish at KS3 and it's not a problem. My department has Spanish specialists who want the Y10 and 11 groups and wouldn't be confident teaching top set Y11 French either, so it works out fine.

    I think the previous poster paints an overly bleak picture of German. Yes it is in decline. Yes, there are more schools offering French / Spanish than German. But that doesn't mean there are no opportunities with German - you just have to be prepared to cast your net wider and be willing to have a longer commute or move for a job. The Germanists I know from my PGCE and SKE course did all get jobs in the end.
    Thank you for raising my hope a bit! I'm just not sure if the situation for German and teaching will get better or worse. I'm due to graduate next year and I'd like to go travelling and work abraod (teaching English as a foreign language) first, but I don't know if it would be harder to get into teaching then instead. Part of me thinks that I should just get some experience and maybe do a French or Spanish course abroad (preferably Spanish because of the lovely weather :P) and work there. BUT I dont know whether when I would be finished with that if the chances of me ever becoming a German teacher would be very realistic

    ahhhh why is life so difficult! hahaha
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    (Original post by myrtille)
    Hi,

    I would definitely recommend doing an SKE course in either French or Spanish as sadly German is in decline in a lot of schools so recruitment is lower.

    The other poster is right that after the SKE your French still wouldn't be of a standard to confidently teach above KS3. But it should still be of a sufficient standard to have a much better chance of getting a job, in a school which offers both French and German and requires a German specialist for GCSE. You would be able to teach Y7-9 French and Y7-11 (or above if you get a job in a school with a 6th form) German.

    I have a French and History degree, AS-Level German and GCSE Spanish. I did an SKE course in Spanish in the summer before my PGCE, and also volunteered on an archaeological dig in Spain to improve my spoken fluency. I now teach French up to GCSE and Spanish at KS3 and it's not a problem. My department has Spanish specialists who want the Y10 and 11 groups and wouldn't be confident teaching top set Y11 French either, so it works out fine.

    I think the previous poster paints an overly bleak picture of German. Yes it is in decline. Yes, there are more schools offering French / Spanish than German. But that doesn't mean there are no opportunities with German - you just have to be prepared to cast your net wider and be willing to have a longer commute or move for a job. The Germanists I know from my PGCE and SKE course did all get jobs in the end.
    Also another annoying thing is that I got contacted by TeachFirst as they were 'very interested by me on LinkedIn', so I called them and they dont offer german arhghghghsdsof so I'd have to apply for maths (no, just no).
 
 
 
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