EU CHAOS: Merkel is ready to CAVE IN and GRANT Turkey visa-free travel

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    Leaked documents from Britain’s ambassador to Germany, Sir Sebastian Wood, claim the German Chancellor is ready to make a “compromise” on Turkey’s terrorism law.

    Turkish president Recep Erdogan has been at loggerheads with the EU after he refused to change laws used to prosecute academics and journalists, one of the conditions to the deal.

    A British ambassador's telegram reportedly said Turkey would not have to meet all its demands
    The controversial deal sees Turkish authorities take on migrants in exchange for visa-free travel in Europe to its citizens.

    Leaders of the 28-member bloc have vowed to sever any agreement with Ankara if conditions are not met.

    But the leaked diplomatic telegram from Sir Sebastian reportedly claims Merkel’s officials are ready to compromise on the terrorism law reform condition.

    There are straws in the wind to suggest that in extremis the Germans would compromise further to preserve the EU-Turkey deal

    Sir Sebastian wrote: “Despite the tough public line, there are straws in the wind to suggest that in extremis the Germans would compromise further to preserve the EU-Turkey deal.

    “Merkel has begun to paint the deal in humanitarian terms to pre-empt human rights opposition.

    More:
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...sador-migrants
    https://www.rt.com/news/346555-merke...-turkey-visas/
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    Merkel lets refugees into Gernany, gets widely criticised.

    Merkel tries to get refugees to settle elsewhere, gets widely criticised again.

    Seems the German government really can't win on this one.
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    I am very disappointed
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    Why would she want Turks to be able to travel freely around Europe, does she hate the continent that much?
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    (Original post by Dez)
    Merkel lets refugees into Gernany, gets widely criticised.

    Merkel tries to get refugees to settle elsewhere, gets widely criticised again.

    Seems the German government really can't win on this one.
    Merkel tries to let despot regime join EU, gets widely criticised.

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    The END of the EU is happening
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    Why would she want Turks to be able to travel freely around Europe, does she hate the continent that much?
    Well she hates Germany so imagine how she feels about the rest of us.
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    (Original post by DiddyDec)
    Merkel tries to let despot regime join EU, gets widely criticised.

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    Visa-free travel ≠ Joining the EU

    What else can she do anyway? These refugees have to go somewhere.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    Visa-free travel ≠ Joining the EU
    That's the point though - why would we want Turks to be able to travel across Europe?

    What else can she do anyway? These refugees have to go somewhere.
    Keep them from crossing the Med tbh, why should they become Europe's problem?
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    That's the point though - why would we want Turks to be able to travel across Europe?
    Politics is the art of compromise. Do we want millions of refugees travelling across Europe?

    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    Keep them from crossing the Med tbh, why should they become Europe's problem?
    They already are Europe's problem and will remain so unless we do something. Merkel is trying to do something. If Turkey don't get on board with this then the migrant crisis is going to get far worse.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    Politics is the art of compromise. Do we want millions of refugees travelling across Europe?
    Turks aren't any better than the "refugees".

    They already are Europe's problem and will remain so unless we do something. Merkel is trying to do something. If Turkey don't get on board with this then the migrant crisis is going to get far worse.
    They won't be Europe's problem if they can't land on our shores. Stopping them from crossing the Med is the something we should do. Then Turkey can close their borders if they don't want the migrants.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    Visa-free travel ≠ Joining the EU

    What else can she do anyway? These refugees have to go somewhere.
    I agree. This would the perfect place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mina,_Saudi_Arabia
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    Turks aren't any better than the "refugees".
    At least they'll have passports, documents and so on. Better the devil you know, I suppose.

    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    They won't be Europe's problem if they can't land on our shores. Stopping them from crossing the Med is the something we should do. Then Turkey can close their borders if they don't want the migrants.
    Patrolling the entire Mediterranean sea is totally infeasible and even if it was, it wouldn't stop refugees from coming. The idea is pure fantasy.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    At least they'll have passports, documents and so on. Better the devil you know, I suppose.
    So they'll be people from an awful culture with awful ideals ... and pieces of paper. Who cares? Better no devil.

    Patrolling the entire Mediterranean sea is totally infeasible and even if it was, it wouldn't stop refugees from coming. The idea is pure fantasy.
    A bigger fantasy is expecting Europe to be able to handle all of those people, and expecting them to integrate. Patrolling the Med would certainly lessen the migrants crossing, especially if they ensure as few cross successfully as possible.
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    So they'll be people from an awful culture with awful ideals ... and pieces of paper. Who cares? Better no devil.
    If that was an option, sure. But simply put, it isn't. The migrant crisis is not going to go away.


    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    bigger fantasy is expecting Europe to be able to handle all of those people, and expecting them to integrate. Patrolling the Med would certainly lessen the migrants crossing, especially if they ensure as few cross successfully as possible.
    You do realise just how big the Med Sea is, right? You could lose a mountain range in there. Preventing migrants/refugees from crossing is just not practical, it would cost trillions.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    You do realise just how big the Med Sea is, right? You could lose a mountain range in there. Preventing migrants/refugees from crossing is just not practical, it would cost trillions.
    Then patrol the parts near the coasts from where they set off, force them back.
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    Then patrol the parts near the coasts from where they set off, force them back.
    Blockading boats from entering the Med would be considered an act of war.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    Blockading boats from entering the Med would be considered an act of war.
    Surely not when the people on the boats are technically illegal immigrants anyway?
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    (Original post by MildredMalone)
    Surely not when the people on the boats are technically illegal immigrants anyway?
    Only when they land on the shores (or at least, enter territorial waters) of the country they're immigrating to. If they're people traffickers, then possibly the vessel could be stopped. But this is all a moot point anyway. The possibility of EU naval forces patrolling the Med to stop migration is simply ludicrous, it won't happen in a million years.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    Visa-free travel ≠ Joining the EU

    What else can she do anyway? These refugees have to go somewhere.
    Visa free travel is the start of the process.

    She could say no to Turkey until they sort themselves out and elect someone who isn't a tyrant.
 
 
 
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