The Student Room Group

Is Masters degree becoming the new standard?

With the introduction of 10k postgraduate loans, the Masters programmes are becoming more accessible and there is an expected increase in a number of prospective students.

Would you say there is a new standard being set in the process for job applications?

Or perhaps, a Masters degree is yet another way for universities to drain some cash and in the first place, is a Masters degree even helpful aside from being a stepping stone into a PhD?
From my understanding, because the 10k student loan is repayable in a similar fashion as the undergraduate loan, I see a Masters degree as a perfect opportunity to refine one's professional skills, like organisational skills, problem-solving etc whilst doing a big project, like a dissertation. Also for those that did not do a year work experience, Masters could be viewed as one. Equally, I see Masters as a perfect opportunity to delay the job search and the career development. So again, is it even necessary?

What is your take?
Original post by dopamine112
With the introduction of 10k postgraduate loans, the Masters programmes are becoming more accessible and there is an expected increase in a number of prospective students.

Would you say there is a new standard being set in the process for job applications?

Or perhaps, a Masters degree is yet another way for universities to drain some cash and in the first place, is a Masters degree even helpful aside from being a stepping stone into a PhD?
From my understanding, because the 10k student loan is repayable in a similar fashion as the undergraduate loan, I see a Masters degree as a perfect opportunity to refine one's professional skills, like organisational skills, problem-solving etc whilst doing a big project, like a dissertation. Also for those that did not do a year work experience, Masters could be viewed as one. Equally, I see Masters as a perfect opportunity to delay the job search and the career development. So again, is it even necessary?

What is your take?


This is already the case in engineering, where integrated masters degrees have made the masters very accessible. Thus, if masters become more accessible in other areas, I see no reason why same effect would not occur.

In terms of the usefulness of the masters for jobs, I think that in many cases they aren't really all that useful, and certainly would not be considered or viewed as equivalent to a years' experience. Masters degrees are usually about academic skills rather than professional skills, with the aim of providing further knowledge in a specific area, and preparation for a PhD.
Original post by dopamine112
With the introduction of 10k postgraduate loans, the Masters programmes are becoming more accessible and there is an expected increase in a number of prospective students.

Would you say there is a new standard being set in the process for job applications?

Or perhaps, a Masters degree is yet another way for universities to drain some cash and in the first place, is a Masters degree even helpful aside from being a stepping stone into a PhD?
From my understanding, because the 10k student loan is repayable in a similar fashion as the undergraduate loan, I see a Masters degree as a perfect opportunity to refine one's professional skills, like organisational skills, problem-solving etc whilst doing a big project, like a dissertation. Also for those that did not do a year work experience, Masters could be viewed as one. Equally, I see Masters as a perfect opportunity to delay the job search and the career development. So again, is it even necessary?

What is your take?

There's no evidence of this in the data - if anything the current earnings premium shown for graduates and postgraduates implies that the labour market is under-supplied with employees with those skills/knowledge. Something that the new PGL may reduce slightly but is unlikely to remove completely.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/518654/bis-16-232-graduate-labour-market-statistics-2015.pdf
Not the norm in medicine and I doubt it will be seeing that you can do a PhD/MD after your medical degree without doing a masters beforehand. Most people also intercalate in a BSc, it's fairly rare to see someone with a masters. The MBChB, MBBS, MB BChir etc confuse people since they think it's a masters degree but it is in fact bachelor of medicine and bachelor of surgery.... No masters for us guys :frown:
I'd say the increase in integrated masters has definitely helped. Traditionally exclusive to the sciences at my university they have trialed integrated masters in other subjects such as geography.
Original post by Zygomaticus
Not the norm in medicine and I doubt it will be seeing that you can do a PhD/MD after your medical degree without doing a masters beforehand. Most people also intercalate in a BSc, it's fairly rare to see someone with a masters. The MBChB, MBBS, MB BChir etc confuse people since they think it's a masters degree but it is in fact bachelor of medicine and bachelor of surgery.... No masters for us guys :frown:

You can intercalate at Masters level
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/medicine/undergraduate/courses/bm5_a100.page
http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/medicine/intercalate/nonresearch
http://medhealth.leeds.ac.uk/info/250/intercalation/162/masters_programmes
http://www.mms.manchester.ac.uk/study/why-study-medicine-manchester/intercalation/
Reply 6
Original post by physicsphysics91
I'd say the increase in integrated masters has definitely helped. Traditionally exclusive to the sciences at my university they have trialed integrated masters in other subjects such as geography.


yeah, what else to do when it offers the most limited graduate job prospects
Original post by dopamine112
yeah, what else to do when it offers the most limited graduate job prospects


Do you really think criticising a different discipline is advisable? http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=63197065&highlight=
Reply 8
Original post by PQ
Do you really think criticising a different discipline is advisable? http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=63197065&highlight=


rekt
Cambridge are ahead of the game ( as so often :h: )... the Master of Arts is awarded to every Tom Dick and Harry all members of good standing three years after they have passed their Tripos examinations.
Reply 10
Original post by Smack
In terms of the usefulness of the masters for jobs, I think that in many cases they aren't really all that useful [...] Masters degrees are usually about academic skills rather than professional skills, with the aim of providing further knowledge in a specific area, and preparation for a PhD.

I agree in general, but it also depends on your prospective area. For example, I am going to work for an economic consultancy firm next year and they normally only hire graduates who have a masters degree (some hire undergraduates but require you to do a masters while you are working for them - usually paid for though).
Reply 11
It is becoming very common these days
Original post by PQ
Do you really think criticising a different discipline is advisable? http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=63197065&highlight=


I was fully aware of the upcoming responses and thought I could relate, with my own discipline standing in the 'top' lists.
Not really, no. The value in a masters outside of stem fields and any fields where it is a prerequisite to achieve professional status, is dubious at best

A bachelors is perfectly sufficient for the vast majority of grad jobs out there in the UK. Sure, continental Europe is a different story, there a masters is the same as what a bachelors degree here is - in terms of utility. It's expected that you do 5 years of schooling in most continental European countries.

Posted from TSR Mobile

Quick Reply

Latest

Trending

Trending