Is it harder to get the grades at Oxbridge?

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Isn't Scotland over the 50% mark already?
Yes, and the Scottish economy is worse than the English one. Egypt and New Zealand have over 50% in higher education and they don't have booming economies. Switzerland on the other hand is doing fine with much lower participation in education.

I can't think of anyone who thinks that the 50% target is a good thing.
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I can!
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I can!
Ah yes, Blair, how could I have forgotten him? :rolleyes:

In fact the government have swept it under the carpet; you don't hear much talk of the 50% target by them these days. There's nothing wrong with doing a U-turn and just admitting you were wrong.
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Hehe sounds a little like some forumers I can think of.
Has Blair ever admitted he was wrong?
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Sorry to butt into the conversation - But is it true that if you take a gap year, that you don't have to pay top-up fees for the year after? Does this mean that the number of applicants for next year's courses should be normal, rather than increased due to Blair thinking he understands what's best for the nation when infact he's an idiot?

Thanks for your responses.
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I still don't believe there's that much difference.
Re the comments on Moliere reading earlier, I think my mum said she had to do something like the play over two weeks (can't remember what play it was) never mind over the holidays.
Good on your mum for doing an OU degree. It's blummin hard work - my dad did one but had to give up as my grandad died part way through.

BTW The Oxford-Moliere thing was about doing the set text reading over the vacs (which is when you are supposed to do it). Of course, if you don't do it over the hols, you have to do it in term time, which means you have to read three plays (in a week!) plus all the secondary lit AND write an essay. (AND do all of the rest of the week's work) I did it a couple of times and man, it wasn't pleasant. shudders at the memory and remembers the caffeine jitters

Mind you, I had to work through the vac to be able to eat during term time, so I didn't have much of an option there!

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Yeah my mum thinks it's hard work. Constantly moans about it and hates her tutor. She says it's much harder than her degree from Glasgow ever was, and says as long as she gets a 2:2 she'll be happy

Moliere rules!
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Ah OU degrees. The OU screwed over people doing French this year. They downgraded the points value of a certain course, and made people who had taken the previous version take it again. That means that my mum has spent this year doing stuff she did 2 years ago.

It has the knock on effect of meaning she'll graduate around the time I graduate, and i'm a quarter of the way through a 4 year degree, and she has been doing this one since before my GCSE's
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:eek: My mum was going to do French for some easy credits!
She's going to do Info Systems now, so looks like I'm going to be teaching her Java :rolleyes:
What degree's your mum doing AMM?
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French.
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Must be easy with all those holidays of yours . (To the land of the cute ickle kittycats!)
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Well they are more of the reason she is doing it, not vice versa .
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I'm sure Mind you I always managed ok on holidays to France. Still remember having to order like a busworth's of sandwiches because I was the only semidecent French speaker on our school trip and the teachers had run off somewhere :rolleyes:
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No doubt off enjoying the cheap wine.

That is the greatest thing about France, a really decent bottle of french wine costs the same as a bottle of the cheapest plonk over here.
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My friend was saying wine is half the price of tea over there
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I wouldn't be at all suprised . Anyway, real europeans drink coffee .
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I don't like coffee

However I do read books about la revolution francaise
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Sorry to butt into the conversation - But is it true that if you take a gap year, that you don't have to pay top-up fees for the year after? Does this mean that the number of applicants for next year's courses should be normal, rather than increased due to Blair thinking he understands what's best for the nation when infact he's an idiot?

Thanks for your responses.
Yep, that's true
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Yep, that's true
Thank you.
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Back to the original question in the thread, as people have pointed out since some univeristies only choose the best students, it would be impossible to really standardise university classes across the universities without some universities giving out 99% firsts, and others similar numbers of 3rds.

What doesn't seem fair, though, is the attitude that seems to be prevalent at the moment that it is somehow discriminatory for an employer to take someone on with a lower class of degree because they have gone to a particular university. Surely someone with a 2.2 from Oxbridge should be able to be taken over someone with a 2.1 from a former poly, simply because the degree proves more about that student's ability (they came at say the 80th percentile of students who are all in the top 10% of the country - this still puts them at say the top 8%). To do otherwise really is discriminatory.
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