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    http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-22/c...polling-booth/

    So in order to stop the Government from rubbing out pencil marks I suggest you make your X with a black pen. Make it more difficult for them!

    We will have our revolution!

    Vote Leave!
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    1. We’re much better off in the EU - Yes, it’s the government’s own Department for Business, Innovation and Skills which puts the overall gain to Britain at six per cent of our gross domestic product.This is at the extremes of the guesses in this continent-sized guessing game, though – some think-tanks think the EU costs Britain about the same amount.

    2. We get to trade stuff with lots of Europeans - Trade stops wars. It also makes us a lot richer – and 50 per cent of all our trade is with the EU.All those goods and services slushing around the continent have brought prosperity to a continent which, let’s face it, has had a pretty ropy history.The process isn’t even complete, either – it’s hoped that finishing off the job of creating a truly single market could boost GDP by yet another seven per cent. According to the British government, of course.

    3. There’s a chance your job could depend on the EU - OK, all the percentage points above might seem a little obscure. In fact they translate to something everyone can understand – jobs.There are an estimated 3.5 million jobs in Britain which are linked, one way or another, to the UK’s trade with the rest of Europe.Manufacturing would be hit especially hard. If Britain left the EU, the foreign companies which own most of Britain’s car factories, for example, would shift their business overnight.

    4. Immigration isn’t all one-way - The free movement of people within the EU – and the huge immigration to Britain that results – is at the heart of the EU debate.But your attitude to the issue might be influenced by where you live. In Rhondda in Wales, just 0.6 per cent of the population are arrivals from the EU. At the other extreme, in Tottenham in London, 17 per cent are EU immigrants. The strain on local public services is bound to be felt more there.Plus, there’s a flipside to the immigration debate which doesn’t get talked about much: the 1.4 million Brits currently living in the EU who would be forced to return to their homeland if we left the EU.A sudden influx of returning Brits would pose, at least in the short-term, just as big a challenge to local councils.

    5. Leaving Britain would be catastrophic for wine-drinkers - Here’s the real killer, though. At least in the short-term, the cost of a bottle of plonk is going to sky-rocket.If Britain left the EU, the cost of an imported bottle of wine would instantly jump by a third. In fact, all imports would be hit because the UK’s existing trade deals were all made via the EU at the World Trade Organisation.Any car bought from overseas would instantly become ten per cent more expensive, too. Puts fuel duty into perspective, doesn’t it?

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    Here come the excuses :rofl:
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    Nah, I'm voting remain soz
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    Make sure you bring your tinfoil hat as well.
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    I will OP. Black pen.

    20 reasons Why We Should Vote Leave:

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    (Original post by Naveed-7)
    I will OP. Black pen.

    20 reasons Why We Should Vote Leave:

    Another original copy and paste from Naveed. Back at it again :lol:
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    Foil hats at the ready people.
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    Ahhhh, so the 'leave' campaign are already making excuses, I guess they've come to terms with the flaws in their arguments.
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    (Original post by Bonoahx)
    Make sure you bring your tinfoil hat as well.
    Otherwise Donald Tusk could steal your brainwaves :top:
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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    1. We’re much better off in the EU - Yes, it’s the government’s own Department for Business, Innovation and Skills which puts the overall gain to Britain at six per cent of our gross domestic product.This is at the extremes of the guesses in this continent-sized guessing game, though – some think-tanks think the EU costs Britain about the same amount.

    2. We get to trade stuff with lots of Europeans - Trade stops wars. It also makes us a lot richer – and 50 per cent of all our trade is with the EU.All those goods and services slushing around the continent have brought prosperity to a continent which, let’s face it, has had a pretty ropy history.The process isn’t even complete, either – it’s hoped that finishing off the job of creating a truly single market could boost GDP by yet another seven per cent. According to the British government, of course.

    3. There’s a chance your job could depend on the EU - OK, all the percentage points above might seem a little obscure. In fact they translate to something everyone can understand – jobs.There are an estimated 3.5 million jobs in Britain which are linked, one way or another, to the UK’s trade with the rest of Europe.Manufacturing would be hit especially hard. If Britain left the EU, the foreign companies which own most of Britain’s car factories, for example, would shift their business overnight.

    4. Immigration isn’t all one-way - The free movement of people within the EU – and the huge immigration to Britain that results – is at the heart of the EU debate.But your attitude to the issue might be influenced by where you live. In Rhondda in Wales, just 0.6 per cent of the population are arrivals from the EU. At the other extreme, in Tottenham in London, 17 per cent are EU immigrants. The strain on local public services is bound to be felt more there.Plus, there’s a flipside to the immigration debate which doesn’t get talked about much: the 1.4 million Brits currently living in the EU who would be forced to return to their homeland if we left the EU.A sudden influx of returning Brits would pose, at least in the short-term, just as big a challenge to local councils.

    5. Leaving Britain would be catastrophic for wine-drinkers - Here’s the real killer, though. At least in the short-term, the cost of a bottle of plonk is going to sky-rocket.If Britain left the EU, the cost of an imported bottle of wine would instantly jump by a third. In fact, all imports would be hit because the UK’s existing trade deals were all made via the EU at the World Trade Organisation.Any car bought from overseas would instantly become ten per cent more expensive, too. Puts fuel duty into perspective, doesn’t it?

    If you're going to copy and paste someone else's material, don't take it from the Metro 'newspaper'
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    Make Britain great!!!!

    Lol the excuses coming hard and fast by the brexiters :rofl:
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    When the Leave campaign have to make up a conspiracy just in case they lose
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    jesus christ

    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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    (Original post by Fenice)
    If you're going to copy and paste someone else's material, don't take it from the Metro 'newspaper'

    I'll take that into consideration! , Oh and what's wrong with copy and pasting facts ?
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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    I'll take that into consideration! , Oh and what's wrong with copy and pasting facts ?
    Brexiteers don't like facts. They're sick of experts.
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    If the government wanted to **** with your vote, I doubt they'd go through the effort of manually erasing the votes. They'd just **** with the numbers afterwards
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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    I'll take that into consideration! , Oh and what's wrong with copy and pasting facts ?
    Nothing if you post the source.
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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    1. We’re much better off in the EU - Yes, it’s the government’s own Department for Business, Innovation and Skills which puts the overall gain to Britain at six per cent of our gross domestic product.This is at the extremes of the guesses in this continent-sized guessing game, though – some think-tanks think the EU costs Britain about the same amount.

    2. We get to trade stuff with lots of Europeans - Trade stops wars. It also makes us a lot richer – and 50 per cent of all our trade is with the EU.All those goods and services slushing around the continent have brought prosperity to a continent which, let’s face it, has had a pretty ropy history.The process isn’t even complete, either – it’s hoped that finishing off the job of creating a truly single market could boost GDP by yet another seven per cent. According to the British government, of course.

    3. There’s a chance your job could depend on the EU - OK, all the percentage points above might seem a little obscure. In fact they translate to something everyone can understand – jobs.There are an estimated 3.5 million jobs in Britain which are linked, one way or another, to the UK’s trade with the rest of Europe.Manufacturing would be hit especially hard. If Britain left the EU, the foreign companies which own most of Britain’s car factories, for example, would shift their business overnight.

    4. Immigration isn’t all one-way - The free movement of people within the EU – and the huge immigration to Britain that results – is at the heart of the EU debate.But your attitude to the issue might be influenced by where you live. In Rhondda in Wales, just 0.6 per cent of the population are arrivals from the EU. At the other extreme, in Tottenham in London, 17 per cent are EU immigrants. The strain on local public services is bound to be felt more there.Plus, there’s a flipside to the immigration debate which doesn’t get talked about much: the 1.4 million Brits currently living in the EU who would be forced to return to their homeland if we left the EU.A sudden influx of returning Brits would pose, at least in the short-term, just as big a challenge to local councils.

    5. Leaving Britain would be catastrophic for wine-drinkers - Here’s the real killer, though. At least in the short-term, the cost of a bottle of plonk is going to sky-rocket.If Britain left the EU, the cost of an imported bottle of wine would instantly jump by a third. In fact, all imports would be hit because the UK’s existing trade deals were all made via the EU at the World Trade Organisation.Any car bought from overseas would instantly become ten per cent more expensive, too. Puts fuel duty into perspective, doesn’t it?

    For anyone who missed TSR's Big EU Referendum - The Panel Debate, here are the main points raised on behalf of#VoteLeave:
    #VoteLeave: UK Finances
    As a committed Europhile (in the true sense of the word) I feel a strong sense of fraternity with our continental cousins, and as someone who has lived on the continent know Europe to be a fantastic place – steeped in rich culture, history, and heritage, and (ordinarily) abound with opportunities. As a learned social scientist, and someone who has dedicated himself to exploring/debating the EU in some detail, I also feel a sense of foreboding about our continued membership of the ailing institution, however:

    UK ECONOMY
    • UK payments to the EU (£13bn p.a.) constitute 20% of the budget deficit, of which only a third comes back – with strings attached | FFT
    • Net fiscal contribution of EEA migrants is +/- £2bn, or 0.25% of public expenditure i.e. impact of EU migration is small either way | MW
    • One of Project Fear’s many threats is that #Brexit will see house prices fall by 20%, according to the Chancellor. Yes please, Mr. Osborne! | GDN

    PUBLIC FINANCES
    • The way the EU has briefed against, bullied, and corralled, countries like Greece and Ireland is nothing short of scandalous | REU
    • UK already bailed out Eurozone (£20bn) sadly on the brink of another crisis – one that will cost us all dearly/probably be terminal for the EU | FT
    • Big business is using the ECJ to claw back billions of pounds of historic tax revenues. Remaining is about social solidarity and sustainability? | DM

    UK INDUSTRY
    • UK fishing receives just 21% of the funds that the EU sends to the Spanish, who pay in far less, and fish (our waters) far more | EUR
    • EU Common Fisheries Policy has cost an estimated 115,000 jobs, decimating British fishing/significantly degrading proud maritime history | TYO
    • CAP takes up half of EU budget, 80% goes to 25% of farmers, it’s wasteful, and harms farmers outside EU e.g. food dumping | EUR



    #VoteLeave: UK Trade
    It is impossible to be completely clear as to the precise impact of Brexit on trade; that is, except to say that when it comes to International Political Economy, and the quality of our diplomatic/economic personnel and institutions, the UK is very well placed to minimise related turbulence, and that - contrary to what the media has been telling us - there are plenty of respected Economists who have conducted detailed analyses and concluded that leaving would be in our economic interests e.g. Professors Minford and Congdon, Economists For Brexit, and Capital Economics

    TRADE POSITION
    • We are the 5th largest economy in the world, and are forecast to leapfrog Germany and Japan within a generation | TMS
    • Unlike Switzerland/Norway, we run a sizeable trade deficit with the EU (£120bn worth of goods) and are the biggest importer of EU goods | NIE
    • Top exporters to the EU: China, USA, etc trade rather freely, and prosperously, in the absence of membership of the customs union | EUR



    #VoteLeave: Free Movement
    INEQUALITY
    • Effect of free movement is effectively to drive down wages/employment T&Cs at the bottom, and to drive up bankers' bonuses at the top | GDN
    • The best and brightest Europeans have been emigrating en masse, worsening spatial deprivation by inflicting a 'brain drain' on the periphery
    • Our National Living Wage, whilst laudable, will further incentivise millions to travel to the UK, when income disparities arealready huge

    SOCIETY
    • The sheer number, mobility, and patchy levels of integration of migrants is irrefutably causing societal friction and pressure on public services
    • It's clear that it has become increasingly difficult to secure affordable/social housing due, in large part, to related demand-side pressure | HSG
    • Roughly 50% of EU migrants return home within a decade but this churning thematic is linked to low English learning/integration | UoR

    SECURITY
    • EU’s European Court of Justice (ECJ) arbitrarily prevents barring/deportation of convicted criminals, terrorists, and unemployed migrants | BBC
    The Migrant Crisis is a shambles and the EU intends to fine member states a €250,000 per asylum seeker they refuse entry | BBC
    • Relatively unvetted non-EU migrants are being given EU residency/citizenship. We are unable to bar their entry, despite ISIS threat | REU[/spoiler]



    #VoteLeave: Political/Legislative Issues
    THE EUROPEAN PROJECT
    • Jean Monnet (founding father of the EU): 'Common market will lead to unity and produce political union which is the goal' |NWE
    • President Jean Claude Juncker: "There can be no democratic choice against the European treaties" | BBC

    DEMOCRATIC DEFICIT
    • Democratically elected Members of the European Parliament (MEPs) cannot propose, initiate, or even repeal legislation |EUR
    • We are 1 voice in 28 (soon to be 35), and have only a tiny share (13%) of the all important EU Council of Ministers vote vs."at top table" | FFT

    LOSS OF SOVEREIGNTY
    • A federalised United States of Europe and EU armed forces are very real prospects a la: 'ever closer union' and 'common defence' | EUR
    • The bulk of UK law is already heavily influenced by EU law - which is supreme, at any rate. Political unification will mean total submission | HoC

    LOSS OF DIGNITY
    • Surreptitious global (crony) capitalist deals like TTIP will eventually get passed vs. consumer/privacy/environmental standards and GovT sued | ZH
    • No control over massive EU migration has led to GovT squeezing other migrants, which is both iniquitous and to the detriment of our nation | GDN



    #VoteLeave: The Future EU
    REFORM
    • Ours is the first exit-referendum that the powers that be have failed to prevent in the 23 years the EU has technically been in existence
    • There is no appetite, need, or incentive for the EU to reform itself and if we remain in then the reform agenda will be completely dead and buried
    • Crippling effects of Eurozone suffocation and EU austerity on (youth) unemployment and welfare mean most Europeans are desperate for reform | EUR
    • Greece tried to use Democracy to effect change with a referendum; the EU rejected the will of the people and instigated regime change! | ZH

    SECURITY
    • Switzerland will not be sharing the security woes of the EU, having opted out of free movement (2014) and withdrawn EU application last week | DM
    • EU Com has agreed to award people travelling from Turkey visa free travel and essentially committed to fast-tracking Turkish membership | BBC
    • Other Eastern nations are also earmarked for accession - Bosnia, 'The Cradle of Modern Jihadism', recently submitted it's application | BBC
    • Cameron has stated that he wants these countries to join, and repeatedly refused to commit to vetoing Turkish membership on QT | BBC




    #VoteLeave: #BeLeave in Britain!
    • We regain control of our rights, borders, waters (fishing), waterways (reduce flood risk), transport, and can slash red tape
    • We end EU institutional supremacy, retake our seat at the Word Trade Organisation (WTO), and are free to spend ourmoney on our priorities
    • We are free to foster a healthy new cooperative, free trade relationship with our European partners and meritocratic immigration
    • We set the scene for EU reform and can always mirror progressive EU trends in a way that suits our culture, society, and economy
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    (Original post by PrincessZara)
    I'll take that into consideration! , Oh and what's wrong with copy and pasting facts ?
    Have you ever heard of the infamous Twain quote: "there are lies, damn lies and statistics"? As far as I can see, there is no information that I can trust. It is easy to manipulate a statistical model to present information in a certain manner.
 
 
 
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