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    Yesterday, we were Great Britain and the United Kingdom - one of the great countries of the world, a proud and powerful partner in Europe and influential throughout the world.

    Today we are in limbo.

    Tomorrow, it is increasingly clear, we will become Little England. Scotland is going to leave, more than likely. There will be increasing clamour for a United Ireland referendum. Probably even Wales will try to find a new path.

    Little England won't be remotely the same. It will be dominated, probably for long periods, by very right wing people like Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and their dismal crew of slippery tax evaders and Home Counties estate agents, hedge fund managers and offshored businessmen.

    It will have few friends and little influence. It will decline, sharply in some areas, more slowly and imperceptibly in others.

    A small group of no more than a few hundred deeply right wing people with very dubious motives have had their way, confusing the working class of Britain with messages they have rushed to repudiate the day after the election and who are profoundly disinterested in the economic wellbeing of the majority of us.

    A very, very sad day.
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    Tissue? :cry2:

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    This is the beginning of the end.
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    Scotlands will not go away. They were always patient serfs of the English. Being slaves is in their blood.

    It is more likely this is the begin of the end of the EU.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Yesterday, we were Great Britain and the United Kingdom - one of the great countries of the world, a proud and powerful partner in Europe and influential throughout the world.

    Today we are in limbo.

    Tomorrow, it is increasingly clear, we will become Little England. Scotland is going to leave, more than likely. There will be increasing clamour for a United Ireland referendum. Probably even Wales will try to find a new path.

    Little England won't be remotely the same. It will be dominated, probably for long periods, by very right wing people like Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and their dismal crew of slippery tax evaders and Home Counties estate agents, hedge fund managers and offshored businessmen.

    It will have few friends and little influence. It will decline, sharply in some areas, more slowly and imperceptibly in others.

    A small group of no more than a few hundred deeply right wing people with very dubious motives have had their way, confusing the working class of Britain with messages they have rushed to repudiate the day after the election and who are profoundly disinterested in the economic wellbeing of the majority of us.

    A very, very sad day.
    Says someone who assumedly supports the isolationist Jeremy Corbyn?

    The UK will not become Little England, even if Scotland and Northern Ireland do choose to leave. Let's say Scotland does leave, as it's unlikely Northern Ireland will because they have a unionist government, the UK will still have a population of 60 million people. Australia and Canada both have populations of around 30 million and they're major players on the world stage, with Australia being major trading partners with superpowers like China, and Canada being major trading partners with superpowers like the US. The ex-(Prime Minister) of Australia yesterday said that the UK will be in-front of the EU when it comes to trade agreements, and there's a strong sense of unity within the commonwealth.

    The UK is the fifth biggest economy in the world and has one of the biggest financial capitals in the world. To argue the UK will enter economic and social ruin as a result of leaving the EU is hysterical and disingenuous.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    one of the great countries of the world, a proud and powerful partner in Europe and influential throughout the world.
    Oh cut the bull.

    You're one of the most prominent cheerleaders for how small, insignificant and irrelevant we are and always have been.

    You've never believed for one second we're anything more than just another stop in the north Atlantic.

    Changing that now to launch some sob story about how overnight we've gone to the dogs is nothing short of spectacularly moronic.

    It's also no surprise coming from you.
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    The issue of the Scots is ridiculous. The first IndyRef took place with full knowledge there would be a European referendum in the very near future. They voted to remain part of the UK with full knowledge of that. If this result changes anything about Scotland and the UK then there is no proper union anyway, there is simply a union of convenience. In that world there is nothing the UK can do other than what Scotland specifically wants and the union remain in tact.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Yesterday, we were Great Britain and the United Kingdom - one of the great countries of the world, a proud and powerful partner in Europe and influential throughout the world.

    Today we are in limbo.

    Tomorrow, it is increasingly clear, we will become Little England. Scotland is going to leave, more than likely. There will be increasing clamour for a United Ireland referendum. Probably even Wales will try to find a new path.

    Little England won't be remotely the same. It will be dominated, probably for long periods, by very right wing people like Boris Johnson, Michael Gove and their dismal crew of slippery tax evaders and Home Counties estate agents, hedge fund managers and offshored businessmen.

    It will have few friends and little influence. It will decline, sharply in some areas, more slowly and imperceptibly in others.

    A small group of no more than a few hundred deeply right wing people with very dubious motives have had their way, confusing the working class of Britain with messages they have rushed to repudiate the day after the election and who are profoundly disinterested in the economic wellbeing of the majority of us.

    A very, very sad day.
    Take your lies to European Union with the " educated " people
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    Wales was more in favour of Leaving that England, IIRC

    Also, I find it amusing how the left (represented by the OP who has not yet surprised me today) are only concerned about the economy regarding Brexit, but in every other way, they are enemies of economic growth
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    Let the Scots go. They aren't worth it. We can always reconquer them if we want anyway.

    But NI is staying ours. I don't care for the mewlings of the murderous Sinn Fein or those treacherous Irish Catholics. THERE'S ALWAYS BE AN ULSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    (Original post by Drewski)
    Oh cut the bull.

    You're one of the most prominent cheerleaders for how small, insignificant and irrelevant we are and always have been.

    You've never believed for one second we're anything more than just another stop in the north Atlantic.

    Changing that now to launch some sob story about how overnight we've gone to the dogs is nothing short of spectacularly moronic.

    It's also no surprise coming from you.
    I don't think that's true, I think you are referencing (forgive me if I'm wrong) threads about the quality of Britain's empire? I am not deluded that Britain was not once the greatest power in the world. If I have made arguments, they've been about mistakes in understanding the postwar relationship with the US that many people have - my view is that the Special Relationship was and is, to use Gerhardt Schroeder's phrase - a special relationship that only one party believed in. As many past Prime Ministers, including Blair, discovered to their regret.

    It's obvious that for many of the older voters who voted Leave (as you can see in interviews in the media today) it is confusion about this post-imperial role and magnitude that is fed on by UKIP and the right. One old chap in tears was talking about how glad he was that we were no longer "ruled by the Germans". Oh dear. The misunderstandings, misinformation and sad delusions are so widespread and the true facts so poorly explained to people.
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    Last I checked, the world was many times bigger than Europe. Little Europers.
 
 
 
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