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    I personally think it was Cameron and Osborn with their speeches and opinions.

    If Cameron had remained neutral I do think the remain would have done better and that Cameron could have stayed on as PM.

    But because he took a side he put all his eggs in one basket.
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    Only by a million or so. Hardly a landslide. They failed in Wales because of ******* lying Corbyn.

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    to be honest I think it was down to luck in the last minute really, Farage basically admitted defeat just after 10:00pm so there was very little indication of the outcome, probably because people are frustrated and want to blame their problems on some foreign entity rather than our own tory government
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    I think it is because a lot of people value some things more than money honestly. I voted leave and I knew it would screw the economy over for a good few years.
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    1) Endorsements from irrelevant people like David Beckham (Multimillionare in LA) and Obama (gone in 4 months).
    2) Labours poor show in Wales/England
    3) Not listening to the people working class people.
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    It`s because people decided not to listen to reason.
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    Its because you didn't use pens

    ..... washes his hands because he has graphite/lead all over them.
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    (Original post by Kadak)
    It`s because people decided not to listen to reason.
    Not to listen to rubbish lies*
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    (Original post by physicsphysics91)
    1) Endorsements from irrelevant people like David Beckham (Multimillionare in LA) and Obama (gone in 4 months).
    2) Labours poor show in Wales/England
    3) Not listening to the people working class people.
    I think 2 is a bit of a funny one. Labour is a divided party, between champagne socialists and sjw types and genuine socialists and the working class. Considering that the latter outnumbers the former, I think they did show but just voted against the party line.
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    (Original post by TercioOfParma)
    I think 2 is a bit of a funny one. Labour is a divided party, between champagne socialists and sjw types and genuine socialists and the working class. Considering that the latter outnumbers the former, I think they did show but just voted against the party line.
    They aren't very unified under Corbyn sadly.
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    (Original post by Naveed-7)
    Not to listen to rubbish lies*
    Speaking of lies,what happened to that 350 million promised to the NHS ?:rolleyes:
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    Because some old racist bigots decided to vote leave without thinking of the repercussions on younger generations...
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    I agree with all your statements above.

    I also voted leave and I think it was right Farage saying that the remain would win (partly due to the big populations in the big city's). However, no one expected the leave strength up North and Wales.

    I also think Labour was to blame for the defeat of the Remain, as Corbyn (Big thanks to him) wasn't active in his camp in labour land. I think was due to his personal reason of he himself wanting to leave the EU.

    However, most of labour MP's have seen through his deception and are now calling for a no confidence vote.

    Ukip also played a big part in leave winning as they took advantage of the labour land dissent and distrust. They are now in a very strong position to effectively destroy labour unless they change their ways.

    The only thing that worries me is who the next PM will be.........I also think we should have a early General Election now before we leave fully from the EU.
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    Because they didn't have good representatives in any debates?

    Remain did not give an convincing arguments in any debates I watched.
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    (Original post by Crazymakhdum)
    Because they didn't have good representatives in any debates?

    Remain did not give an convincing arguments in any debates I watched.
    Hmm, I am not sure.

    They did have a few strong performances, but overall I would say they were weak in comparison to leave. Leave just had that energy that the remain lacked.
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    Because they held out this weird hope that a silent majority would tip the balance in favor of remain as opposed to going after the votes.

    They descended to Brexits level of slinging ******** which was always going to fail because A) Brexit had been doing it longer and B) It's easier to demonize brown people than it is to scare people with hypothetical economic problems when we're already having to deal with ACTUAL economic problems. That isn't to say the Remain or Leave did not have compelling arguments, it's just neither campaign used them in the end, they just prefered to spout rubbish to try and scare people into voting how they wanted.

    Finally the leave campaign just had more energy to what they were doing. I've seen hundreds of "Vote Leave" posters, I haven't seen a single "Vote Remain" one.
 
 
 
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