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I'm confused. A grammar school IS a state school
How do you think that people in independent schools got to where they are - through their parents who were in many cases from state school and working class backgrounds and who have given them a good grounded upbringing. It is not as black and white as people make it out to be... state/independent. Ultimately, it depends on you as you are your own person.
Because you know people in state schools does not mean you know the extent to which they can be dreadful. You're talking about Alevels and I don't think you appreciate that intelligent people often won't make it to alevels because they're in such crud schools.
My school was crap. And my GCSE's were good in comparison to my friends. Compared to schools in my local area my school was good. My mum sent me to a school outside my local borough in order to make sure i got a so called decent education. Had there been any grammar schools or assisted places at private schools i would have taken the opportunity with both hands. GCSE's werent' easy at my school. It was a challenge getting teachers to work in the school, and a challenge to get kids to stay in the classes.
No I was saying that if our parents could do it - and they arent that hardworking (!).... then im sure that other people can. God you make it seem like climbing mount everest.... it is just GCSEs and A levels... u can teach yourself the courses! Im not disputing that people in independent schools might get it easier, but if you want it as bad then you will work harder for it. Then when you get to uni you can proove yourself and excel. Also some unis, such as bristol, look at a C grade in a state school the same as an A grade in an independent school due to these opinions - although i think this is wrong.
But why don't you think that the grade should be viewed in context?
Then when you get to uni you can proove yourself and excel. Also some unis, such as bristol, look at a C grade in a state school the same as an A grade in an independent school due to these opinions - although i think this is wrong.
private schools wouldn't be needed if the state schools were decent ¬_¬
Also bear in mind that one reason that state schools are so poor is that they lack experienced and gifted teachers, who are often attracted by the higher wages/working environment offered by the private sector.
Grammar schools are selective state schools and are paid for through taxes like comprehensives (another type of state school). Private schools are funded for privately (not through taxes). Public and independent schools are just other names for private schools. To top it all off, some independent/public/private schools choose to call themselves grammars when they are not grammars as they are not paid for through taxation. Simple really.....
The standard of education received at the comprehensive wasn't bad, you were taught fairly well although pupils weren't challenged that much to be honest in comparison to the grammar - hours of homework a night which you'd get chased up for not doing, not the case in the comp.
The grammar also had less ****wits/drop outs/no hopers in it unsuprisingly, most of the time in the comp was spent chasing up misbehaving kids rather than teaching the ones that wanted to learn, again completely the opposite to grammar, kids wanted to learn and thrived off the work they got thrown at them.
Still though, i'm glad i went to the comp rather than the grammar, given me a decent perspetive on the world, grammar appears to shield and shelter the pupils way too much from the real world (bullying, crime, drugs, ***** etc..) not saying this doesn't happen in grammars, it did and i'm sure it does.
I dont proclaim to know everything - just sharing my view! I do also know though a lot of people who have gone from being in independent schools for GCSEs to going to sixth form college (state run) for A levels and doing just as well if not better. Some people prefer state schools so they cant be that bad!
Because how the hell can you measure the context for each individual person - it is different for everyone and their circumstances. People are being far too general. For example, some people in independent schools may be having serious problems out of school which hinders their ability to suceed - would it be fair to label them as elitist and having an unfair advantage then because they went to independent school? We cannot put things in context so much as to know about every single person - that is like saying why dont we scan peoples brains to know how intelligent they are instead of taking exams???!
No, when you apply to university, if you have a non standard context you mention it and they take it into account. Otherwise you assumed you had the standard context.