Do you think the next leader of the Conservative party should call a General Election Watch

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Sgt.Golden
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Do you think the next leader of the Conservative party should call a General Election?

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I don't think it could be done since Parliament is on a fixed term.
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The fixed term parliament act can be repealed, there are ways of doing so. It is the duty of the next leader to call a general election. I can't think of many times in British history where parliament has had such a seeming lack of legitimacy and representative credibility. The country is severely polarised, the status quo and the political establishment have been rejected. It is absolutely fundamental that an election takes place, in order to reverse the disenfranchisement that is ripping the country apart. I don't think many feel as if the current government has a mandate anymore, it feels as if no one is in charge of the country. I'm certainly not a functionalist, but fresh leadership is key for stability.
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Definitely. Conservatives became angry when Gordon Brown didn't call an election, so it would be extremely hypocritical for them to wait almost four years and not call one immediately in this situation, particularly if the leader wants to differ from the 2015 manifesto in any way (as they naturally will want to), because they need their own mandate. Our voting system does mean that voters vote for their MP, and not the PM, but the policy platform of the party leader is possibly the most influential factor in deciding the election outcome, so an election should be held, in my opinion, within one year at the most.

The Fixed Term Parliaments Act isn't an issue; a Vote of No Confidence can simply be held, and the opposition isn't exactly going to vote against holding an election.
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NO! We don't need more uncertainty. A GE would be a foolish move.
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Hell No! KEEP COMRADE CORBYN OUT! COMRADE CORBYN WILL START PRINTING MONEY!
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No.

We elect MPs, and the party with the most MPs become the governing party, who form the Government. The leader of the governing party is the Prime Minister.

We do not elect the Prime Minister. Therefore, the party is free to do as it pleases, the Conservatives are the largest party and have a mandate to be the government. Who from their internal ranks does it is immaterial.

If we were a Republic with a separately elected Prime Minister, then yes, we should. But we don't, so we shouldn't and needn't.
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Hell No! KEEP COMRADE CORBYN OUT! COMRADE CORBYN WILL START PRINTING MONEY!
...any evidence for this, at all? Regardless, I don't think Corbyn will win - and I say this as a Labour member. Conservatives will likely, unfortunately, gain seats, as Corbyn hasn't done a particularly good job as leader.
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...any evidence for this, at all? Regardless, I don't think Corbyn will win - and I say this as a Labour member. Conservatives will likely, unfortunately, gain seats, as Corbyn hasn't done a particularly good job as leader.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...d-independence
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No.

We elect MPs, and the party with the most MPs become the governing party, who form the Government. The leader of the governing party is the Prime Minister.

We do not elect the Prime Minister. Therefore, the party is free to do as it pleases, the Conservatives are the largest party and have a mandate to be the government. Who from their internal ranks does it is immaterial.

If we were a Republic with a separately elected Prime Minister, then yes, we should. But we don't, so we shouldn't and needn't.
Conservatives were elected on their manifesto commitments - if the next PM wants to deviate, and I'm sure they will, then they should call an election, offering to the public what they want to do as PM. Yes, we elect our MPs, but people generally don't vote based on their individual MP - if they did, then the Lib Dems who abstained/voted against the tuition fee raise would surely have stayed, and the Ed Miliband fiasco of the bacon sandwich would only have impacted those in his constituency. The party leader, and their manifesto policies, is one of the largest factors that influences voting, not the MP.
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Ok, fair enough, but you oppose an election solely because it doesn't benefit your party? Presumably you're okay with Gordon Brown's decision not to call an election then, and you wouldn't be upset if Miliband had won the election, and Corbyn was now replacing him as PM - with a completely different agenda, including apparently printing money, and other stuff not in the 2015 manifesto - and wasn't going to call an election. Democracy can't be applied only when it suits some; it needs to be universally applied.
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(Original post by doctorwhofan98)
Ok, fair enough, but you oppose an election solely because it doesn't benefit your party? Presumably you're okay with Gordon Brown's decision not to call an election then, and you wouldn't be upset if Miliband had won the election, and Corbyn was now replacing him as PM - with a completely different agenda, including apparently printing money, and other stuff not in the 2015 manifesto - and wasn't going to call an election. Democracy can't be applied only when it suits some; it needs to be universally applied.
First of all I am a Libertarian Socialist. This means just about every political party in the UK doesn't share my idealogical beliefs.

Second I was initially in favour of Jeremy Corbyn leading the Labour party but as soon as he mentioned QE and started to rant on about Keynesian economics I abandoned my support for him.

Third I actually voted for Millband.What you forget is the Conservatives won the 2015 election. To call for a election is making a mockery of the voters. If however enough people bring the whole country to a stand still and not just London then it will be in the best interest of the country to have an election.
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No the Conservative party won the last general election fair and square so it's only right that they finish their term. I wouldn't even want to imagine the catastrophic effects of Brexit and a Labour government getting in shortly after.
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At a time where we've got the majority of the EU knocking at the door, asking when we're actually going to leave, and we don't really even know what's happening ourselves - we need someone to get stuck in and get the job done. Personally, I'd have preferred Cameron to do the negotiations.

We can't keep doing this to the EU, can we?:



P.S. Can I go back to my Glastonbury Festival Brexit Bubble yet? It was much nicer there.
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(Original post by Alfissti)
I don't think it could be done since Parliament is on a fixed term.
I am not sure if that is the case. There has been much discussion in the press about the possibility of a general election. But if one is called, it will be a tactical plan by the Tories given that Labour is so weak and ineffective. They would call an early election which if won would give them another 5 years to wreck the country even more.
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No, because the Tories will most likely increase their majority and bulldoze Brexit through.

If a GE were called this autumn Labour would have absolutely NO CHANCE of winning.
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When you vote at a general election you vote for your MP, you vote for the party manifesto, whoever the next PM is, she will follow that manifesto and follow the advice of the MPs you elected. No one wants to repeal the fixed term parliament act, David Cameron and the Conservative party like the act and support it, it creates a stable government and abolishes the uncertainty of a General election, one more uncertainty is the last thing we need. After losing a referendum the government thought they would win I think it's hardly a good idea to call a general election since they could fall into needing to form a coalition again (the last thing we need), it could also give way to more UKIP MPs influencing negotiations and making it harder. So I think when Theresa May becomes PM we should all be happy and laugh at the mess of the Labour Party who refuse to accept the qualities of Blair for future use. What's the point in calling a general election, the unelectable Labour Party isn't gonna get far, UKIP could rise, Conservatives could get a landslide but they've done enough gambling for now.
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(Original post by doctorwhofan98)
The Fixed Term Parliaments Act isn't an issue; a Vote of No Confidence can simply be held, and the opposition isn't exactly going to vote against holding an election.
Labour will lose seats to UKIP if an election is called now. I don't think that is what you and they want.
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I would like another GE but I can pretty much guarantee the Labour Party will be decimated once it's over.
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