The plan to destroy the nation state

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This is an eye opener.
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They destroy the nation state by removing the nation via mass immigration and cultural degeneracy. You can do so much more with a state than with one with cultural integrity.
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They destroy the nation state by removing the nation via mass immigration and cultural degeneracy. You can do so much more with a state than with one with cultural integrity.
Sure, not denying that, but there is also the global governance and corporate monopoly agenda, which the EU facilitates. We have to be deeply suspicious of Washington backing here too.
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Sure, not denying that, but there is also the global governance and corporate monopoly agenda, which the EU facilitates. We have to be deeply suspicious of Washington backing here too.
Banks and corporations have a want to destroy the nation state, via cheaper labour and an easier to exploit, divided population. The EU is no more than what will be the future country of Europe. How socialists can support it(and lot's do not) is beyond me.
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Banks and corporations have a want to destroy the nation state, via cheaper labour and an easier to exploit, divided population. The EU is no more than what will be the future country of Europe. How socialists can support it(and lot's do not) is beyond me.
That's what to me, was so utterly disheartening about this campaign. It's almost like people had given up on independence and national interests, they support all that is cynical and undemocratic and destroys the idea of a society and our national interest, so long as they could have a bit of cosmopolitanism and call people bigots, none of the underlying economic and political issues mattered to them. It's so clear what's going on, but 'progressives' will support the hollowing out of the world so long as they have enough money, more than the ghastly proles, seemingly obsessed as they are with their fake, shallow, opportunistic and soulless sense of moral superiority and cosmopolitanism. I wonder why the whole media and political establishment danced to the tune of the Iraq war, even the likes of the Guardian, and now they backed this? All these people think we've turned dark, and done something reactionary-in fact it's been dark for so long, and we did something progressive. I'm not idealistic that it can make massive difference, but I had to vote to kick back against the global order and try and precipitate the beginning of a more human and truthful world. The level of propaganda, brainwashing and lack of nuance in this debate is scary, and seemingly the whole media is bidding for the agenda and suffering from an inhuman type of groupthink. A formal education has not seemingly given them much regard for the truth or independence of mind.

Maybe that's grandiose but I don't think you can underestimate the corporate role here, and Washington's role, and I have found this whole thing quite scary. Propaganda, media infiltration and indoctrination is alive and kicking.
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