TSR Med Students' Society Part VI

I feel like the inappropriate labetalol and consultant running to Ireland after this would have come up much more.

What?? When did this happen?

What?? When did this happen?

Think they meant after the incident. He got a job at Cork.

He was outside the hospital on the day that happened though.

Mum gave him enalapril from home that had been discontinued in hospital - a hypovolaemic, AKI-y child in septic shock. Enalapril. Enalapril!!!



He was away doing teaching, but was there for the 4:30 handover. Was handed over the ABG result - he even wrote it down - and left it to his juniors, no further discussion, before pissing off.

Mum gave him enalapril from home that had been discontinued in hospital - a hypovolaemic, AKI-y child in septic shock. Enalapril. Enalapril!!!



He was away doing teaching, but was there for the 4:30 handover. Was handed over the ABG result - he even wrote it down - and left it to his juniors, no further discussion, before pissing off.

...well if she wasn't made to work outside her scope of practice I'm sure she'd be fine.

Mum gave him enalapril from home that had been discontinued in hospital - a hypovolaemic, AKI-y child in septic shock. Enalapril. Enalapril!!!

It sounds like she 'volunteered' to help out a unit in dire straights. No obligation to take the shift but they were desparate and she came to help out. Makes it even more tragic!



Was it definitely the mum? Could it have been a nurse?

Of all the actual errors in management that probably did make a difference that one is probably the largest, right? There's no doubt in my mind that whoever it was would be more responsible for the death than Bawa-Garba. If it was mum it would be tragic and arguably a non-medic could never have known it was a mistake, but responsible nonetheless.

It was definitely the mum, as per previous court proceedings.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2016/1841.html

Paragraph 15 (I keep trying to quote it here, but it completely f's the post formatting).

What?? When did this happen?

Important to bear in mind that we are all incredibly biased with respect to Bawa-Garba given we are doctors.

Rather uneasy about reading people almost trying to "blame the mum" on this page.

Important to remember people posting in this thread may well feel differently had it been their child that had died.

Your comment is pretty unfair imo. It's not blaming the Mum, it's just pointing out that Dr Bawa Garba was put in an impossible situation and has been forced to take blame when it wasn't her fault. Maybe she should have refused to cover the rota gaps and leave all of those kids without a doctor. Except that would have also gotten her struck off. And don't even get me started on the poor nurse who was struck off too. We're simply pointing out that the GMC have treated Dr Bawa Garba horribly as if she was the only one to blame. She wasn't trying to kill a child, she was trying to keep the wards running while doing the jobs of multiple people and wasn't helped by system failures that frankly terrifying.

With severe staff shortages, stuff like this may become more common and what's the point in working in dangerously understaffed hospitals where one mistake can get us struck off when we can switch careers into pharma, business, finance, whatever or escape to Aus/NZ as soon as we can?

Rather uneasy about reading people almost trying to "blame the mum" on this page.

Important to remember people posting in this thread may well feel differently had it been their child that had died.

I agree with that.

I just think it's important that we remember that we are not unbiased observers.

I agree with that.

I just think it's important that we remember that we are not unbiased observers.