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So I'm in Year 11 (going into Y12 in September) and I'm thinking of doing the Gold Duke of Edinburgh Award. I didn't go Silver or Bronze, so I think I'm right in saying it would take 18 months to complete. Is it likely to be worth doing? Is it valued by universities and employers? I don't think I will have finished it before I apply to uni but I could still say that I'm in the process of completing it. Any thoughts?

Any help would be appreciate as I really don't know much about it
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So I'm in Year 11 (going into Y12 in September) and I'm thinking of doing the Gold Duke of Edinburgh Award. I didn't go Silver or Bronze, so I think I'm right in saying it would take 18 months to complete. Is it likely to be worth doing? Is it valued by universities and employers? I don't think I will have finished it before I apply to uni but I could still say that I'm in the process of completing it. Any thoughts?

Any help would be appreciate as I really don't know much about it
DoE is not desirable for university applications. Universities are looking for applicants who are motivated to study their subject.

Depending what you're applying for then some of the experiences from DoE might be relevant and worth discussing in your PS but the emphasis will be on what you learned from the experience. Whether you get a certificate/medal/award is not relevant.

If you're considering DoE then do it because you think it will be fun or interesting. Not to boost your CV.
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So I'm in Year 11 (going into Y12 in September) and I'm thinking of doing the Gold Duke of Edinburgh Award. I didn't go Silver or Bronze, so I think I'm right in saying it would take 18 months to complete. Is it likely to be worth doing? Is it valued by universities and employers? I don't think I will have finished it before I apply to uni but I could still say that I'm in the process of completing it. Any thoughts?

Any help would be appreciate as I really don't know much about it
Employers like it as something extra; but it's not a substitute for qualifications and stuff.

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DoE is not desirable for university applications. Universities are looking for applicants who are motivated to study their subject.

Depending what you're applying for then some of the experiences from DoE might be relevant and worth discussing in your PS but the emphasis will be on what you learned from the experience. Whether you get a certificate/medal/award is not relevant.

If you're considering DoE then do it because you think it will be fun or interesting. Not to boost your CV.
Then how the hell did I get an unconditional?

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If you're up against someone else with identical qualifications, but you have the DofE as well, you'll be better placed to an employer. If nothing else it shows motivation and organisation. Do it for fun, not to improve uni applications.
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Employers like it as something extra; but it's not a substitute for qualifications and stuff.



Then how the hell did I get an unconditional?

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Your qualifications, your predictions, your PS talking about your subject, your reference.

I'm guessing you didn't apply with nothing but DoE. I doubt your offer letter stated outright "we were so impressed with your DoE we're making an unconditional offer".
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Your qualifications, your predictions, your PS talking about your subject, your reference.

I'm guessing you didn't apply with nothing but DoE. I doubt your offer letter stated outright "we were so impressed with your DoE we're making an unconditional offer".
No, but the dominant stuff was the extra curricular stuff

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Might help a bit with university applications but to be honest I wouldn't force yourself to do it. I did silver but never actually got the certificate and at no point have I ever been asked to show it ....*

If you don't have any other extra curriculars then it might help but if you already do other stuff then it's up to you, if you think you'll enjoy it go for it.*
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So I'm in Year 11 (going into Y12 in September) and I'm thinking of doing the Gold Duke of Edinburgh Award. I didn't go Silver or Bronze, so I think I'm right in saying it would take 18 months to complete. Is it likely to be worth doing? Is it valued by universities and employers? I don't think I will have finished it before I apply to uni but I could still say that I'm in the process of completing it. Any thoughts?

Any help would be appreciate as I really don't know much about it
Forget universities or employers. Don't do it for them. Do it for yourself. It is brilliant. For me, it opened my eyes and was the start of my passion for the great outdoors which has seen me climb Mont Blanc twice and climb on El Capitan in Yosemite.

Do it!
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No, but the dominant stuff was the extra curricular stuff

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So because you got an offer with a EC heavy PS you think this proves universities prefer EC heavy PSs.

Which subject / university was this for. Because unless the OP is only interested in studying that course at that university then your advice is potentially damaging.

For some subjects like maths (and for some universities desperate for students) you could probably submit a PS that was an essay about how you enjoy cutting your toenails and still get an offer - especially if you have the right A levels and predicted grades. For many other subjects and universities a PS that doesn't show a good understanding and motivation for the course applied to (ie one that wastes space discussing the writers hobbies) will get a rejection no matter how good an applicant's predictions.
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So because you got an offer with a EC heavy PS you think this proves universities prefer EC heavy PSs.

Which subject / university was this for. Because unless the OP is only interested in studying that course at that university then your advice is potentially damaging.

For some subjects like maths (and for some universities desperate for students) you could probably submit a PS that was an essay about how you enjoy cutting your toenails and still get an offer - especially if you have the right A levels and predicted grades. For many other subjects and universities a PS that doesn't show a good understanding and motivation for the course applied to (ie one that wastes space discussing the writers hobbies) will get a rejection no matter how good an applicant's predictions.
Computer science at Hull. All I know is what I bashed together in half hour somehow did the job.

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DOFE gives you ucas points. It also gives you something to talk about on your personal statement (eg confidence).
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DOFE gives you ucas points. It also gives you something to talk about on your personal statement (eg confidence).
UCAS points? Never knew that bit

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UCAS points? Never knew that bit

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It's true, you enter it into ucas as a qualification. It doesn't give you that many points however.
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It's true, you enter it into ucas as a qualification. It doesn't give you that many points however.
Ohhh, I should've done that then

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Computer science at Hull. All I know is what I bashed together in half hour somehow did the job.

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It's highly likely your PS wasn't even read I'm afraid. If your subjects and predicted grades were fine then an offer would be based on those. PSs count for some subjects and can count more during confirmation if applicants have missed their offers but they're not deal breakers for many subjects.

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DOFE gives you ucas points. It also gives you something to talk about on your personal statement (eg confidence).
DoE does not earn tariff points. It never has and it doesn't meet the criteria to be added in future. https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergradu.../tariff-tables

It's rare/unknown of that a university would be swayed into making an offer or not because an applicant said they had more confidence in their PS.
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It's highly likely your PS wasn't even read I'm afraid. If your subjects and predicted grades were fine then an offer would be based on those. PSs count for some subjects and can count more during confirmation if applicants have missed their offers but they're not deal breakers for many subjects.


DoE does not earn tariff points. It never has and it doesn't meet the criteria to be added in future. https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergradu.../tariff-tables

It's rare/unknown of that a university would be swayed into making an offer or not because an applicant said they had more confidence in their PS.
Lol soz that's what the ucas lady at my college told me
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It's highly likely your PS wasn't even read I'm afraid. If your subjects and predicted grades were fine then an offer would be based on those. PSs count for some subjects and can count more during confirmation if applicants have missed their offers but they're not deal breakers for many subjects.


DoE does not earn tariff points. It never has and it doesn't meet the criteria to be added in future. https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergradu.../tariff-tables

It's rare/unknown of that a university would be swayed into making an offer or not because an applicant said they had more confidence in their PS.
Ohhh OK

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Employers like it as something extra; but it's not a substitute for qualifications and stuff.



Then how the hell did I get an unconditional?

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Pre-A2 unconditionals are handed out to benefit the university not the applicant.
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So I'm in Year 11 (going into Y12 in September) and I'm thinking of doing the Gold Duke of Edinburgh Award. I didn't go Silver or Bronze, so I think I'm right in saying it would take 18 months to complete. Is it likely to be worth doing? Is it valued by universities and employers? I don't think I will have finished it before I apply to uni but I could still say that I'm in the process of completing it. Any thoughts?

Any help would be appreciate as I really don't know much about it
If you want to do it for its own sake, do it. If you are only interested in it as a CV enhancer, don't.

The experience of doing DofE can provide useful fodder for skills/competency based interviews for graduate schemes or jobs later on - but it is not the only way of achieving this, and (especially for Gold) you will need more than "this *might* be adding value to my CV" to cheer you up when you are roughing it on an expedition in the Peak District in a cold/windy/wet March :tongue:
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It's true, you enter it into ucas as a qualification. It doesn't give you that many points however.
It gives you precisely none.

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