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(Original post by It'sPhil...)
your probably just too young to fully understand/appreciate the wonderfull wonderfull beverage called alcohol. in a few years you'll see...
Perhaps. Perhaps not.

Not all adults drink alchahol.
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Perhaps. Perhaps not.

Not all adults drink alchahol.

People here probably don't like it because they haven't found 'their drink' yet. There IS probably something you like but you have to try different drinks (whether it be lager, bitter, whisky, vodka and coke, alcopops, wine etc etc). Try different drinks and you'll eventually find 'your drink'.

But saying that, some people just don't like alcohol and it is thought to be genetic. Their was an experiment done with monkeys and some of them drank loads whilst others drank none. They believe that this is the same with humans and their is a broad spectrum from tee-totaller to extreme alcoholic.
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If someone does indeed find not drinking more beneficial than drinking, then they'd be silly to do otherwise. I've just never come across someone such as this before .
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People here probably don't like it because they haven't found 'their drink' yet. There IS probably something you like but you have to try different drinks (whether it be lager, bitter, whisky, vodka and coke, alcopops, wine etc etc). Try different drinks and you'll eventually find 'your drink'.

But saying that, some people just don't like alcohol and it is thought to be genetic. Their was an experiment done with monkeys and some of them drank loads whilst others drank none. They believe that this is the same with humans and their is a broad spectrum from tee-totaller to extreme alcoholic.

Was supposed to be THERE!

Most people fall in the middle. They like a drink but on occasion but are not alcoholic.
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(Original post by It'sPhil...)
agreed. you only live once so come on get off your face, try stuff and get high.
I wouldn't advocate trying anything more potent than alcohol; I can't really tell if you're advocating that or not, but use of the term 'get high' seems to imply it. Remember that alcohol is controlled by the law and you know exactly what you're getting, which is not the case with illegal substances; I'd recommend sticking to just alcohol...
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But saying that, some people just don't like alcohol and it is thought to be genetic.
Indeed. My parents both like alchahol however my two older siblings (one 17, one very nearly 20) and I all dislike the stuff.
As you say it may come with age, but I know several adults who just don't drink it, or atleast rarely do so.

Hmmm...I do hope that my taste buds become a little more accomodating, it's quite irritating being so fussy (am talking food here as well as drink).
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I wouldn't advocate trying anything more potent than alcohol; I can't really tell if you're advocating that or not, but use of the term 'get high' seems to imply it. Remember that alcohol is controlled by the law and you know exactly what you're getting, which is not the case with illegal substances; I'd recommend sticking to just alcohol...
Not that I'm advocating the use of illegal drugs, but alcohol is responsible for more deaths a year than any other drug, legal or illegal.
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Not that I'm advocating the use of illegal drugs, but alcohol is responsible for more deaths a year than any other drug, legal or illegal.
I don't dispute that, but alcohol is much safer than illegal drugs if used in moderation, it's just that a lot more people use alcohol than illegal drugs, so there are a lot more recorded deaths etc. from its misuse.
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I don't dispute that, but alcohol is much safer than illegal drugs if used in moderation, it's just that a lot more people use alcohol than illegal drugs, so there are a lot more recorded deaths etc. from its misuse.

Yes your right but cannabis is much safer than alcohol. No one has died directly from smoking cannabis (perhaps lung cancer in later life but I mean no O.D's). Also, cannabis doesn't give you a hang-over. I think it is absolutely absurd that someone can be criminally prosecuted for using drugs because they are not harming anyone. It is the persons on choice, as long as they don't harm anyone and are willingly taking the drugs then I don't see the problem (the feeding of organised crime when buying the drugs is irrelevant, if the governmanr wants to stop organised crime involving drugs then they should legalise).
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Yes your right but cannabis is much safer than alcohol. No one has died directly from smoking cannabis (perhaps lung cancer in later life but I mean no O.D's). Also, cannabis doesn't give you a hang-over. I think it is absolutely absurd that someone can be criminally prosecuted for using drugs because they are not harming anyone. It is the persons on choice, as long as they don't harm anyone and are willingly taking the drugs then I don't see the problem (the feeding of organised crime when buying the drugs is irrelevant, if the governmanr wants to stop organised crime involving drugs then they should legalise).
I'm no expert on the health risks of cannabis, but I have seen enough people at my college, who use it, to see that in the vast majority of cases it wrecks at least their short-term memory, and significantly reduces how sharp they are mentally. It has also been linked to schizophrenia, which is not the case with alcohol.

I see your point regarding people being allowed to do what they want as long as it's not harming others, but I can't agree that cannabis is safer than alcohol.
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I don't dispute that, but alcohol is much safer than illegal drugs if used in moderation, it's just that a lot more people use alcohol than illegal drugs, so there are a lot more recorded deaths etc. from its misuse.
Actually, smoking marijuana is roughly 4 times less harmful than normal cigarettes. As for alcohol, are you suggesting it's less of a worry because the danger is from over use rather than toxicity? How can over use be avoided when alcohol is addictive? Some illegal drugs are safer than alcohol if used correctly, the danger comes when their illegal status makes it hard to educate people with the facts.
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Actually, smoking marijuana is roughly 4 times less harmful than normal cigarettes.
I don't advocate the smoking of normal cigarettes either.

(Original post by Unregistered)
As for alcohol, are you suggesting it's less of a worry because the danger is from over use rather than toxicity?
Yes, if alcohol is used by a sensible person who knows not to overuse (most people are capable of not going over the top), it is not a danger, whereas cannabis (and tobacco) have dangerous and toxic effects however much you use them.


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How can over use be avoided when alcohol is addictive?
Easily. Everyone who isn't an alcoholic (the vast majority of people) can manage it.

(Original post by Unregistered)
Some illegal drugs are safer than alcohol if used correctly, the danger comes when their illegal status makes it hard to educate people with the facts.
I think when used in moderation (which most people are capable of doing), alcohol is the drug with the least serious impact on health. This is probably why it's legal, and others aren't.

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I think when used in moderation (which most people are capable of doing), alcohol is the drug with the least serious impact on health. This is probably why it's legal, and others aren't.

Would remind you that cigarettes are also legal and still 4 times as toxic as cannabis. Why, if most people are capable of using alcohol in moderation, are most alcohol related deaths due to drink driving and alcohol-induced violence? These deaths make up the largest proportion of all drug related deaths.

On a less volitile note, am I getting confused, or are you going up to Cambridge/Oxford this year?
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Drinking/not drinking alcohol is a matter of personal preference; no right way, no wrong way. If your friends pressure you into drinking but u don't want to then they're probably not good friends in that respect. You only live once, so be happy whilst you're living; pointless trying something just because someone else told u to, not because u want to.

From my p.o.v. only reason why cigarettes and alcohol are legal is because of tradition and resistance to change. I don't think it has anything to do with toxicity or effects, although some arguments about toxicity are still valid. I reckon pretty much all drugs can be beneficial in moderation. Problem usually is though that moderation, sometimes because of the way the drug is used and alsobecause addiction works against moderation.
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I hate the stuff and im 17? Ive tried it countless times but i just cant see the appeal. Plus being the son of a doctor I have heard of and seen the impact of alchol.
if u are out with friends and they are cant u try reefs and brakidi breezers coz the taste like fruit.
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People here probably don't like it because they haven't found 'their drink' yet. There IS probably something you like but you have to try different drinks (whether it be lager, bitter, whisky, vodka and coke, alcopops, wine etc etc). Try different drinks and you'll eventually find 'your drink'.

But saying that, some people just don't like alcohol and it is thought to be genetic. Their was an experiment done with monkeys and some of them drank loads whilst others drank none. They believe that this is the same with humans and their is a broad spectrum from tee-totaller to extreme alcoholic.
My fab drink are lime arches, oragne reef
whats urs(im only 15)
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Indeed. My parents both like alchahol however my two older siblings (one 17, one very nearly 20) and I all dislike the stuff.
As you say it may come with age, but I know several adults who just don't drink it, or atleast rarely do so.

Hmmm...I do hope that my taste buds become a little more accomodating, it's quite irritating being so fussy (am talking food here as well as drink).
how old are you because ma cousins bf( who i get on hell of a lot) is 23 just turned and he only drinks soft drinks when he is out so ur not the only person
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That reminds me - a few of my friends are muslim's (and so don't drink alcohol) so when I hang out with them I don't really drink.
Yeah, I'm a muslim and don't drink either. However, I still do socialise by going out for meals, activities, cinema etc with friends, and by playing in a football team. I don't feel that I don't miss out on anything by not drinking! I do love my soft drinks though, especially fanta fruit twist!
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If someone does indeed find not drinking more beneficial than drinking, then they'd be silly to do otherwise. I've just never come across someone such as this before .
Now you have. Me! hehe I didn't stop drinking intentionally, and I still do on occasion. Yet it isn't nearly as much or as often as I used to. I used to love it in fact, go out with the lads and do 'boat races', stagger home at ungodly hours etc. Now I sit back with an OJ, and perhaps a good lager, and walk home comfortably at ungodly hours etc.
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I hate the stuff and im 17? Ive tried it countless times but i just cant see the appeal. Plus being the son of a doctor I have heard of and seen the impact of alchol.
from my experiences i have found out that there are actually a lot of teenagers that just drink to be drunk, they don't necessarily like the taste.
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