Help!! Biomedical science to medicine?
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Original post by Ayesha_05
I don't know about the others but i'd say its cz you have the benefit of hindsight. You know what you lacked in your personal statement or in your experience. So you have a second chance at improving that and in doing so it shows your commitment to the profession despite the odds.
If, however, your lacking in grades then you're screwed!! Sorry to say.
If, however, your lacking in grades then you're screwed!! Sorry to say.
But iv seen many unis say "u wasnt good enough first time around". sorry im so bitter about this but i think its an amazing course and I want to study it with people who enjoy it. But many applicant days, open days and meetings later i can tell im going to be with people who are doing it purely for medicine.. not enjoyment. Yes there may be some but its a respectable course and I hate it being used as purely a steppingstone .
I just finished my GCE london A/L and due to sickness (I had a terrible fever but I couldn't take it as a health issue prob bcos i had to finish what i started)
and I got 2C's and 2D's
C's for Phys and Bio
D's for Chem and Maths.
I was devastated but most of my other class students had E's and U's
I was lucky in a way but I know I could've done better. The highest score in our class was 1A*, A and a B.
I was angry with myself when I heard those results.
I called up university agents in my country and they told me the best route (due to my lack of grades) if you need to do Medicine is doing a bio med degree (Note that I am not referring to it as a stepping stone!)
Can anyone tell me more about this?
I desperately need to be a doctor not bcos of pay or any other bull**** but for a personal issue.
Its either a MBBS or MD (I still have probs de-entangling these stuff)
Can I only achieve a grad med and not a postgrad since they cut one year off? The cutting thing the agents told me I have no idea about it.
I have financial issues as well so I thought this was best. I hope to apply for a uni in Australia. (QUT or Griffith) and I need to get PR so the fees will be domestic student wise.
What is suitable to do in this situation?
and I got 2C's and 2D's
C's for Phys and Bio
D's for Chem and Maths.
I was devastated but most of my other class students had E's and U's
I was lucky in a way but I know I could've done better. The highest score in our class was 1A*, A and a B.
I was angry with myself when I heard those results.
I called up university agents in my country and they told me the best route (due to my lack of grades) if you need to do Medicine is doing a bio med degree (Note that I am not referring to it as a stepping stone!)
Can anyone tell me more about this?
I desperately need to be a doctor not bcos of pay or any other bull**** but for a personal issue.
Its either a MBBS or MD (I still have probs de-entangling these stuff)
Can I only achieve a grad med and not a postgrad since they cut one year off? The cutting thing the agents told me I have no idea about it.
I have financial issues as well so I thought this was best. I hope to apply for a uni in Australia. (QUT or Griffith) and I need to get PR so the fees will be domestic student wise.
What is suitable to do in this situation?
Original post by Romaj
Hi guys I have a question....can I get top marks on the first biomedical examination which is the first year and then transfer into another university that has medicine which accepts transfers...?
I think at queens and kings, they accept transfers but only students from oxford or cambridge At st georges, we don't accept transfer. Students from other unis. Youd have to start from year 1.
Check the unis websites, as they usually mention something about transfers in their criteria/entry requirements. If they do accept transfers, just meet their entry requirement and anything else they ask for.
However- transferring into med straight away is not an option, unless you are already studying med. (from what i know)
(edited 10 years ago)
'A biomedical science degree is worth nothing once you have a medical degree, because it supplies no additional knowledge to what is covered in the pre-clinical years'
'And F1's get free accomodation at their hospital anyway.'
Neither of these things are true. Firstly, looking with a cynical mindset a second degree is at least worth some points for specialty training interviews, more if you can gain a publication or presentation of some sort out of it. But more importantly it can cover a huge amount of subject matter into areas often brushed over by undergraduate medical training which is still required for membership exams. I found my Cell Biology degree invaluable for this reason. Secondly, the free accommodation has been removed because along with the introduction of EWTD the majority of junior doctors are not working 90 hour weeks any more.
'And F1's get free accomodation at their hospital anyway.'
Neither of these things are true. Firstly, looking with a cynical mindset a second degree is at least worth some points for specialty training interviews, more if you can gain a publication or presentation of some sort out of it. But more importantly it can cover a huge amount of subject matter into areas often brushed over by undergraduate medical training which is still required for membership exams. I found my Cell Biology degree invaluable for this reason. Secondly, the free accommodation has been removed because along with the introduction of EWTD the majority of junior doctors are not working 90 hour weeks any more.
thank you soooooo much for your comment its realy helpfull !!!!!
whats the rush
you can just do Biomedical science <which take no more than 2 years > then do medicine.
you can just do Biomedical science <which take no more than 2 years > then do medicine.
There is a course That The University of Bradford do, called clinical Sciences , they offer transfers into both year 1 and year 2 Leeds medical school. You can entry the foundation year if you lack science Alevels ( like I did) or have lower grades than expected and the degree is 4 years long.
Or
You can entry straight into year 1 of Clinical Sciences if you have the grades too,this would be a standard 3 year degree. Whatever year you entry into though, you have a chance to transfer into Year 1 or 2 of medicine at LEEDS ONLY depending on if your coming from foundation year or year 1.
There are 40 people on this course who transfer every year, 20 from foundation year into year 1, and 20 from year 1 clinical sciences into medicine year 2 . It is subject to grades, a personal statement,interview and I now believe there a test of UKCAT or one of them.
People that don't transfer can continue with the course of clinical sciences, and then try to do graduate medicine. Clinical Sciences is acreddited by the GMC the same authority that governs Medicine and it is a very desirable degree to admissions of graduate medical schools ,as it is something that stands out from the many Biomed degree graduates they get.
It is a hard and competitive course ( 110 avrg number of student per year, all wanting to get transfer but only 20 places ) but I would strongly recommend this rather than Biomed - graduate pathway , it is giving you 1 - 2 extra chances of getting into medicine via transfer ,, and if you don't get in you haven't lost anything you can still do graduate medicine with this degree. The fact it Year 1 Clinical Sciences and Year 1 Medicine at Leeds mirror one another in content also makes it more enjoyable to learn.
This is the route I took and I am now a Medical student it has worked out far better than if I opted for the Biomed route which I considered initially. More info on the course will be on The University of Bradford and The University of Leeds website.
Or
You can entry straight into year 1 of Clinical Sciences if you have the grades too,this would be a standard 3 year degree. Whatever year you entry into though, you have a chance to transfer into Year 1 or 2 of medicine at LEEDS ONLY depending on if your coming from foundation year or year 1.
There are 40 people on this course who transfer every year, 20 from foundation year into year 1, and 20 from year 1 clinical sciences into medicine year 2 . It is subject to grades, a personal statement,interview and I now believe there a test of UKCAT or one of them.
People that don't transfer can continue with the course of clinical sciences, and then try to do graduate medicine. Clinical Sciences is acreddited by the GMC the same authority that governs Medicine and it is a very desirable degree to admissions of graduate medical schools ,as it is something that stands out from the many Biomed degree graduates they get.
It is a hard and competitive course ( 110 avrg number of student per year, all wanting to get transfer but only 20 places ) but I would strongly recommend this rather than Biomed - graduate pathway , it is giving you 1 - 2 extra chances of getting into medicine via transfer ,, and if you don't get in you haven't lost anything you can still do graduate medicine with this degree. The fact it Year 1 Clinical Sciences and Year 1 Medicine at Leeds mirror one another in content also makes it more enjoyable to learn.
This is the route I took and I am now a Medical student it has worked out far better than if I opted for the Biomed route which I considered initially. More info on the course will be on The University of Bradford and The University of Leeds website.
Hi, can anyone advise me on whether I would be suitable for grad med or not. I have not so good science A-levels which I retook multiple times in 4 yrs ( I went crazy with A-levels and I am so ashamed of what I have done) but now I am enrolled onto computer science degree and I am currently in 2nd yr. The thing is I still want to pursue medicine which was my original aim. But, I just wanted to ask whether the medical schools would still accept me if get a 2:1 from my current course. Also, would they look at my A-levels because I emailed Swansea and they told me A-levels don't matter but I am still worried. I have the option of transferring back to yr 1 of Human Biology but I don't really want to because £9000 is no joke and is a lot of debt. Thanks a lot.
P.S. sorry for the rant (could u also tell me whether to take UKCAT/GAMSAT if possible)
P.S. sorry for the rant (could u also tell me whether to take UKCAT/GAMSAT if possible)
(edited 9 years ago)
Original post by Maak119
hello.
i am currently doing my btec science and i want to pursue a carrier in medicine. i would like to do this by doing BSc clinical science/ medicine with foundation year and then do medicine. is this route okay.
i am currently doing my btec science and i want to pursue a carrier in medicine. i would like to do this by doing BSc clinical science/ medicine with foundation year and then do medicine. is this route okay.
Hi I am not entirely sure what clinical sciences/medicine with a foundation year want for their entry requirements. I only ever met people with A-levels but I think they might actually go off traffif points ? so btec should be fine. I would check on UCAS for entry requirements or potentially ring them up.
They are usually a very flexible course for entry requirements, I didn't even apply to them properly and I got a place.
As for the route itself , it is risky, like there are about 110 people who start of on the course and only 20 maximum get transferred to Leeds Medical school and all 110 want to transfer so it is competitive and there are allot of people who will be disappointed, but the odds are still better than apply to medicine straight out, and especially if you don't have many other options anyway.
The plus side is you get two shots at it if you start in foundation year, aslong as you dont get through to the interview after foundation year, you can try again in Year 1, if you get interviewed in foundation year though and get rejected you cannot apply next year.
If all else fails you still have a degree in clinical sciences and can try for graduate.
If you get through to interview at Leeds there was 40 people when I went and 20 get in, so a 50/50 chance you'll get in is allot higher than other medical interviews.
My honest opinion is that it's risky if you do have a different way off doing it like doing Alevels or redoing grades and taking gap years, if thats for you then I'd recommend that, however I would definitely recommend this route over graduate entry because, it is essentially the same but giving yourself two extra chances of transferring, why wouldn't someone want the extra opportunities.
I just know this route worked for me so I would recommend it but it is hard. If you check the University of Bradfords site for this course it will explain it in allot more detail.
(edited 9 years ago)
i applied for biomedical with specialism in cancer biology to go into medicine after it and i just seen this i need to change my course to this and for this course do they not do first year entry because i looked on ucas and it says they do but when i go on the website nothing comes up?
Original post by rattusratus
urgh.... adressing the early point
BIOMED STUDENTS ARE NOT MEDICINE REJECTS...
IM A BIOMED STUDENT AND DO NOT NOR EVER HAVE WANTED TO BE A GOD DAMN DOCTOR, IM A SCIENTIST - IM GOING TO BE A VIROLOGIST/EPIDEMIOLOGIST OR GENETISIST WORKING IN RESEARCH AND IM SICK OF ****ING IDIOTS CONSTANTLY SAYING 'OH, SO YOU MUST OF FAILED TO GET INTO MED SCHOOL THEN'
i wish people would stop thinking this is just an easy option because you give the people that actually have true passion for the subject a bad name
BIOMED STUDENTS ARE NOT MEDICINE REJECTS...
IM A BIOMED STUDENT AND DO NOT NOR EVER HAVE WANTED TO BE A GOD DAMN DOCTOR, IM A SCIENTIST - IM GOING TO BE A VIROLOGIST/EPIDEMIOLOGIST OR GENETISIST WORKING IN RESEARCH AND IM SICK OF ****ING IDIOTS CONSTANTLY SAYING 'OH, SO YOU MUST OF FAILED TO GET INTO MED SCHOOL THEN'
i wish people would stop thinking this is just an easy option because you give the people that actually have true passion for the subject a bad name
Respect dude
Original post by zahid_786
Hi everyone,
I just joined this website in order to get some help from all you good people.
I have graduated with a Biomedical Science degree at 2.1. However, i really want to do Medicine but i can't afford it.
I am really stuck as what to do from now on. I believe that whatever i choose to do now, i have to stick with it for the rest of my life.
Keeping in mind that i wanted to become a doctor, could you please inform me of any careers that i can do which are very much similar to Medicine - earning around £40,000 at start.
Or can i do a masters, where i maybe able to carry out similar duties to a doctor.
The bottom line is that i want to do hospital based work, working with patients etc. But NOT A NURSE.
PLEASSSEEEE HELP ME?!!?
I just joined this website in order to get some help from all you good people.
I have graduated with a Biomedical Science degree at 2.1. However, i really want to do Medicine but i can't afford it.
I am really stuck as what to do from now on. I believe that whatever i choose to do now, i have to stick with it for the rest of my life.
Keeping in mind that i wanted to become a doctor, could you please inform me of any careers that i can do which are very much similar to Medicine - earning around £40,000 at start.
Or can i do a masters, where i maybe able to carry out similar duties to a doctor.
The bottom line is that i want to do hospital based work, working with patients etc. But NOT A NURSE.
PLEASSSEEEE HELP ME?!!?
Hi there I hope you have succeeded to your career I wanted to ask if you had any financial help like grants or scholarship
Original post by zahid_786
Hi everyone,
I just joined this website in order to get some help from all you good people.
I have graduated with a Biomedical Science degree at 2.1. However, i really want to do Medicine but i can't afford it.
I am really stuck as what to do from now on. I believe that whatever i choose to do now, i have to stick with it for the rest of my life.
Keeping in mind that i wanted to become a doctor, could you please inform me of any careers that i can do which are very much similar to Medicine - earning around £40,000 at start.
Or can i do a masters, where i maybe able to carry out similar duties to a doctor.
The bottom line is that i want to do hospital based work, working with patients etc. But NOT A NURSE.
PLEASSSEEEE HELP ME?!!?
I just joined this website in order to get some help from all you good people.
I have graduated with a Biomedical Science degree at 2.1. However, i really want to do Medicine but i can't afford it.
I am really stuck as what to do from now on. I believe that whatever i choose to do now, i have to stick with it for the rest of my life.
Keeping in mind that i wanted to become a doctor, could you please inform me of any careers that i can do which are very much similar to Medicine - earning around £40,000 at start.
Or can i do a masters, where i maybe able to carry out similar duties to a doctor.
The bottom line is that i want to do hospital based work, working with patients etc. But NOT A NURSE.
PLEASSSEEEE HELP ME?!!?
couple of years on, where are you now? Are you a medic?
Original post by lemongrabz
There is a course That The University of Bradford do, called clinical Sciences , they offer transfers into both year 1 and year 2 Leeds medical school. You can entry the foundation year if you lack science Alevels ( like I did) or have lower grades than expected and the degree is 4 years long.
Or
You can entry straight into year 1 of Clinical Sciences if you have the grades too,this would be a standard 3 year degree. Whatever year you entry into though, you have a chance to transfer into Year 1 or 2 of medicine at LEEDS ONLY depending on if your coming from foundation year or year 1.
There are 40 people on this course who transfer every year, 20 from foundation year into year 1, and 20 from year 1 clinical sciences into medicine year 2 . It is subject to grades, a personal statement,interview and I now believe there a test of UKCAT or one of them.
People that don't transfer can continue with the course of clinical sciences, and then try to do graduate medicine. Clinical Sciences is acreddited by the GMC the same authority that governs Medicine and it is a very desirable degree to admissions of graduate medical schools ,as it is something that stands out from the many Biomed degree graduates they get.
It is a hard and competitive course ( 110 avrg number of student per year, all wanting to get transfer but only 20 places ) but I would strongly recommend this rather than Biomed - graduate pathway , it is giving you 1 - 2 extra chances of getting into medicine via transfer ,, and if you don't get in you haven't lost anything you can still do graduate medicine with this degree. The fact it Year 1 Clinical Sciences and Year 1 Medicine at Leeds mirror one another in content also makes it more enjoyable to learn.
This is the route I took and I am now a Medical student it has worked out far better than if I opted for the Biomed route which I considered initially. More info on the course will be on The University of Bradford and The University of Leeds website.
Or
You can entry straight into year 1 of Clinical Sciences if you have the grades too,this would be a standard 3 year degree. Whatever year you entry into though, you have a chance to transfer into Year 1 or 2 of medicine at LEEDS ONLY depending on if your coming from foundation year or year 1.
There are 40 people on this course who transfer every year, 20 from foundation year into year 1, and 20 from year 1 clinical sciences into medicine year 2 . It is subject to grades, a personal statement,interview and I now believe there a test of UKCAT or one of them.
People that don't transfer can continue with the course of clinical sciences, and then try to do graduate medicine. Clinical Sciences is acreddited by the GMC the same authority that governs Medicine and it is a very desirable degree to admissions of graduate medical schools ,as it is something that stands out from the many Biomed degree graduates they get.
It is a hard and competitive course ( 110 avrg number of student per year, all wanting to get transfer but only 20 places ) but I would strongly recommend this rather than Biomed - graduate pathway , it is giving you 1 - 2 extra chances of getting into medicine via transfer ,, and if you don't get in you haven't lost anything you can still do graduate medicine with this degree. The fact it Year 1 Clinical Sciences and Year 1 Medicine at Leeds mirror one another in content also makes it more enjoyable to learn.
This is the route I took and I am now a Medical student it has worked out far better than if I opted for the Biomed route which I considered initially. More info on the course will be on The University of Bradford and The University of Leeds website.
Hey, could you please tell me anymore information about the course and what you have to do to get in due to the competition.
I am re-sitting my 1st year of college and I want to apply for medicine. I wanted to know if I apply for medicine once I have finished sixth form would unis accept me since I am repeating my first year of college?
My other option is applying for biomedical science in uni and wanted to know if it would still be possible to do medicine after getting a degree in biomedical science considering I repeated my first year of college?
My other option is applying for biomedical science in uni and wanted to know if it would still be possible to do medicine after getting a degree in biomedical science considering I repeated my first year of college?
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