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Corbyn ratings at - 41% after 10 months in the job watch

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    Opposition leader ratings after 10 months

    Foot -32
    Kinnock -7
    Smith +1
    Blair +29
    Hague -16
    IDS -9
    Howard -15
    Cameron -1
    Miliband -7
    Corbyn -41
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    Lol
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    Might join Labour just so I can vote him in again vs Eagle.
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    Among who?
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    If he wins then we can wave goodbye to Labour and hello to Tory lite.
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    He's a record breaker *
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    (Original post by Gora The Xplorer)
    Might join Labour just so I can vote him in again vs Eagle.
    it will cost ya £25 this time
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    (Original post by skeptical_john)
    it will cost ya £25 this time
    And it might be too late.
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    (Original post by skeptical_john)
    it will cost ya £25 this time
    If I join I might make shadow chancellor, so it's not all lost.
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    (Original post by skeptical_john)
    it will cost ya £25 this time
    £2 if you become an affiliated Union member apparently
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    (Original post by viffer)
    £2 if you become an affiliated Union member apparently
    Yes for students and unwaged that seems like a good get around.
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    (Original post by Gora The Xplorer)
    Might join Labour just so I can vote him in again vs Eagle.
    You'll need £25 this time, according to reports, although apparently you may be able to do it by joining Labour Scientists or a similar group for less.
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    (Original post by skeptical_john)
    Opposition leader ratings after 10 months

    Foot -32
    Kinnock -7
    Smith +1
    Blair +29
    Hague -16
    IDS -9
    Howard -15
    Cameron -1
    Miliband -7
    Corbyn -41
    Amazing how much Blair stood out in the crowd. He was something of a marvel in those days. I don't remember much from then, except I do have a memory of him becoming Prime Minister and in summer term at school we were all quite excited, it seemed like a really big and interesting thing.
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    HAHAHAHAHA! Serves you right, comrades.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    Amazing how much Blair stood out in the crowd. He was something of a marvel in those days. I don't remember much from then, except I do have a memory of him becoming Prime Minister and in summer term at school we were all quite excited, it seemed like a really big and interesting thing.
    This was their election theme song. You'd hear it everywhere all the time:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XTWm0s7ZwDY

    And they had all the cool popstars of time endorsing him and Labour like Noel Gallagher. I was only in primary school but like you I still remember it being a massive deal and absolutely nobody thought it would anything other than a huge Labour victory. Blair was fresh, cool, charismatic, plausible, firy and offered a message and prospect of optimism and excitement. Something people of all backgrounds could get on board with. New Labour did.*

    So basically the opposite of what they're like now.
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    (Original post by KimKallstrom)
    This was their election theme song. You'd hear it everywhere all the time:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XTWm0s7ZwDY

    And they had all the cool popstars of time endorsing him and Labour like Noel Gallagher. I was only in primary school but like you I still remember it being a massive deal and absolutely nobody thought it would anything other than a huge Labour victory. Blair was fresh, cool, charismatic, plausible, firy and offered a message and prospect of optimism and excitement. Something people of all backgrounds could get on board with. New Labour did.*

    So basically the opposite of what they're like now.
    To be fair it's the opposite of what Blair's like now too. On every public appearance he seems bitter, downtrodden and downright miserable.

    I think we are seeing the Labour party being written out of history at the moment. Scotland has gone, Wales is going, the North could well go to UKIP.
    Corbyn has been awful but I don't think he's caused this, he's simply sped up the process.
    Unrestricted capitalism has led to many parts of the country simply being left behind. Many feel angry and this anger has been directed by th e likes of the Mail, Sun and Express at immigrants, public sector works, people on benefits and the EU, rather than the real source of the problem.

    We're going to have a one party state soon and while some may see that as good, it's going to be awful for our democracy.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    To be fair it's the opposite of what Blair's like now too. On every public appearance he seems bitter, downtrodden and downright miserable.
    Probably because everything he's worked on and believed in has been utterly rejected and most people believe him to be a war criminal. If he'd have done a Gordon brown and retired dignantly I could probably sympathise but I hink that especially I the last ten years he went nuts and it's finally dawned on him the extent of how bad he's messed up. If he had have retired and been more honest (or avoided) Iraq he would have had a truly great legacy, as it is he's consigned to the dung heap of history because of his hubris and not only destroyed himself but quite possibly the Labour Party .


    I think we are seeing the Labour party being written out of history at the moment. Scotland has gone, Wales is going, the North could well go to UKIP.
    Corbyn has been awful but I don't think he's caused this, he's simply sped up the process.
    Unrestricted capitalism has led to many parts of the country simply being left behind. Many feel angry and this anger has been directed by th e likes of the Mail, Sun and Express at immigrants, public sector works, people on benefits and the EU, rather than the real source of the problem.

    We're going to have a one party state soon and while some may see that as good, it's going to be awful for our democracy.
    PRSOM.

    That said, I think we need some modesty- TBF my politIcal forecasting has been pretty dreadful- I wouldn't be that surprised if brexit turns out ok as I've been wrong with my other predictions. That said, we'll see- most of the brexit gang have back tracked massively so it's hard to know what will happen. The way I see it- it's a win/win- either I'm wrong and I eat humble pie but enjoy the benefits of brexit (and learn a valuable lesson) or I'm right and I can feel smug and n the future the Disunited Kingdom can join the United States of Europe in 2050 as a provincial backwater (aside from London which will continue to be a modern day Gomorrah)
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    Even though I despise Corbyn, I think I may just join the party for a month in order to vote him back in so there can be a truly socialist party in this country, as without them the Conservatives and Labour are quite similar.
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    (Original post by Davij038)
    Probably because everything he's worked on and believed in has been utterly rejected and most people believe him to be a war criminal. If he'd have done a Gordon brown and retired dignantly I could probably sympathise but I hink that especially I the last ten years he went nuts and it's finally dawned on him the extent of how bad he's messed up. If he had have retired and been more honest (or avoided) Iraq he would have had a truly great legacy, as it is he's consigned to the dung heap of history because of his hubris and not only destroyed himself but quite possibly the Labour Party .




    PRSOM.

    That said, I think we need some modesty- TBF my politIcal forecasting has been pretty dreadful- I wouldn't be that surprised if brexit turns out ok as I've been wrong with my other predictions. That said, we'll see- most of the brexit gang have back tracked massively so it's hard to know what will happen. The way I see it- it's a win/win- either I'm wrong and I eat humble pie but enjoy the benefits of brexit (and learn a valuable lesson) or I'm right and I can feel smug and n the future the Disunited Kingdom can join the United States of Europe in 2050 as a provincial backwater (aside from London which will continue to be a modern day Gomorrah)
    I'm just worried that the Labour Party may never recover from this. There is no unwritten law that states the Labour party must recover, they may cease to exist.
    They don't have any chance of retaking Scotland for decades, Wales and the North look set for a UKIP breakthrough and middle England is still as inherently conservative as ever

    People are waking up to the ills of neoliberalism but they still aren't blaming the system. They're blaming the immigrants and the welfare state and the EU. This suits the tory party down to the ground and they have the press on their side. I'm not sure what any Labour leader could have done to prevent this, other than of course shifting sharply to the right to the point that they can scarcely be regarded as Labour anymore.

    Unfortunately though, Labour are being squeezed out in every direction and even their heartlands are going.
    As others have remarked, choosing the next Labour leader feels like choosing the captain on the Titanic after it's hit the Iceberg.
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    (Original post by Bornblue)
    I'm just worried that the Labour Party may never recover from this. There is no unwritten law that states the Labour party must recover, they may cease to exist.
    They don't have any chance of retaking Scotland for decades, Wales and the North look set for a UKIP breakthrough and middle England is still as inherently conservative as ever

    People are waking up to the ills of neoliberalism but they still aren't blaming the system. They're blaming the immigrants and the welfare state and the EU. This suits the tory party down to the ground and they have the press on their side. I'm not sure what any Labour leader could have done to prevent this, other than of course shifting sharply to the right to the point that they can scarcely be regarded as Labour anymore.

    Unfortunately though, Labour are being squeezed out in every direction and even their heartlands are going.
    As others have remarked, choosing the next Labour leader feels like choosing the captain on the Titanic after it's hit the Iceberg.
    I think the labour oarty is essentially a walking corpse that's far too gone. Decent Labour MPs (of which there are many) are trung to resuscitate it but even if by some miracle they get rid of Corbyn I thinks it's far too late. It will be best for the brunt of MPs to leave En masse and either fight again as part of a genuine, non regressive centre left platform or at least go out fighting for what they believe in than go down for something they don't, or else beaten out by people who think Stalin was a better man than Blair et al.

    I think w
    Everyone would be better off if the Corbynites joined the greens and formed a Socialist Patty and if the bulk of the PLP joined the lib dems and formed another SDP.
 
 
 
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