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Theresa May boldly seizes the centre ground watch

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    What an amazing speech. It could have easily been given by an incoming Labour Prime Minister. She focused on social justice, on wealth inequality, tax evasion, on differing life chances and even mentioned that white working class boys are the least likely of any demographic to attend university.

    This is a pretty aggressive move into the centre, even centre left, as the shambolic Labour Party has vacated it. I've even seen some Corbyn supporters who were impressed by it. Labour is probably out of power for the next 15 years. Very few will want to vote for a left-wing personality cult rather than a centrist government

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    It really was a great speech! (saying this as a leftie)
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    (Original post by VeneziaDoge)
    It could have easily been given by an incoming Labour Prime Minister.
    So basically then, we're heading back towards having two major parties that are pretty much exactly the same apart from the colour tie they wear. Assuming Labour doesn't completely drive itself off a cliff that is.
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    We got a left wing Labour party and a centre-wing (not left or right) conservative party... I wonder who will win with a big majority in 2020.. hmmmmmmmmm
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    Actions speak louder than words.
    Remember when Cameron went on about 'compassionate conservatism', 'one nation-ism', 'hug a hoody' 'greenest government ever'?

    How did that all pan out? Hm.....

    The reality is that if Ed Miliband had made the speech that Theresa did yesterday, the OP would be criticisng him for being far left and anti-aspirational. As it's a tory though, it's apparently 'what a speech'
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    (Original post by ckfeister)
    We got a left wing Labour party and a centre-wing (not left or right) conservative party... I wonder who will win with a big majority in 2020.. hmmmmmmmmm
    If you don't think the Conservatives are right wing, you have a seriously warped and flawed view of the political spectrum.
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    Makes me laugh a little when people actually think these speeches many anything. They are just empty words, purely created to appease us. If you think there's an ounce of sincerity in what she says you must be a little naive.

    The Tories have always said they'd fight for the poor, when their actions do the reverse. So I'm not going to listen to a word she says, and wait for her actions.
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    Actions speak loader than words, especially when her first move after this as Prime Minister was giving her cabinet a sharp step to the right putting conservative party politics over picking a competent person to represent the UK.*
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    Empty words. Maybe on some level she actually does care about what she is saying; she is human after all. But in practice I doubt she will do anything to genuinely help anyone but the "privileged few".
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    I agree with a lot of what she says. But I'm also wise enough to doubt her sincerity.
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    Call me cynical but I was a bit bemused watching this.

    It gave the impression that a right-wing Tory suddenly cares about everyone else, only time will tell I suppose.
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    She said this because she hasn't been elected and wants to appeal to as many people as possible. She may not act on a word of it.
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    (Original post by lolakirk)
    It really was a great speech! (saying this as a leftie)
    Agreed. But anyone can talk the talk. She will be judged on how she walks the walk.

    I found yesterday pretty interesting. It is interesting that Cameron choose to highlight two things he was proud of
    1. Same Sex Marriage, proposed by the Liberal Democrats and opposed by Theresa May
    2. Bringing the poorest of society out of paying tax, again, proposed by the Liberal Democrats

    We must not all forget too, that Theresa May opposes much of the Human Rights legislation and was defeated by common sense in her quest to have ISPs spy on us for the government.

    She needs watching that one.
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    (Original post by ByEeek)
    Agreed. But anyone can talk the talk. She will be judged on how she walks the walk.

    I found yesterday pretty interesting. It is interesting that Cameron choose to highlight two things he was proud of
    1. Same Sex Marriage, proposed by the Liberal Democrats and opposed by Theresa May
    2. Bringing the poorest of society out of paying tax, again, proposed by the Liberal Democrats

    We must not all forget too, that Theresa May opposes much of the Human Rights legislation and was defeated by common sense in her quest to have ISPs spy on us for the government.

    She needs watching that one.
    Theresa May didn't oppose same sex marriage, she was one of the key people who made it happen, alongside Lynne Featherstone and Barowness Stowell
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    When I saw the headline to this thread I thought it was irony.

    But it seems that it wasn't.

    There is nothing bold about seizing the middle ground in politics in today's Britain. It's the ideal strategy for keeping Labour or whatever party emerges from the ashes of the Labour Party out of power for much of the next 20 years.
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    You're right. As I recall Liam Fox, Phillip Hammond and Michael Fallon used to be in the Socialist Workers Party.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    So basically then, we're heading back towards having two major parties that are pretty much exactly the same apart from the colour tie they wear. Assuming Labour doesn't completely drive itself off a cliff that is.
    I'm not sure that's true. Eagle is well to the left of Blair (which probably means too far left for the British electorate), and Owen Smith is too. Corbyn, of course, is off the scale and intent on a very long term project only he and his supporters fully understand.

    Labour was unelectable after the fall of Callaghan until the Smith policy reforms that were subsequently picked up by Blair and Brown, and returned to that position once it moved leftwards after Brown's demise and the unions, now much smaller than they once were, are once again in charge - which is anathema to the electorate.
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    And then there will be cuts to the NHS, welfare and etc.
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    I'll believe it when I see it, but the fact that the terms of the debate have shifted in the correct direction is at the very least promising, and should ensure that Labour MPs don't feel pressured into supporting, say, economically illiterate spending cuts.

    Now that Theresa May has been taking about investing in long-term infrastructure projects, as the IMF, the OECD and Labour have been calling for for the past year, the deficit fetishism of the past six years should end.

    Other policies such as workers' representation on boards of companies look promising.

    But, as I said, actions speak louder than words. And, she's not been a centrist in the past. Her sinister counter-extremism strategy and snoopers' charter have all but ended the right to freedom of expression in this country, and she supported the economic policies which have inflicted immense hardship on working-class communities over the past six years.
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    (Original post by lolakirk)
    Theresa May didn't oppose same sex marriage, she was one of the key people who made it happen, alongside Lynne Featherstone and Barowness Stowell
    I beg your pardon - you are right. I have been False Fact Facebooked. Sorry.
 
 
 
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